zircon Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 I don't think IE is that good on him actually. He does massive damage with Bio-Arcane Barrage which scales with AP and attack speed. That's his primary source of damage, sine each shot is at least 6% of the target's max health. The way I like to build him, in no particular order: * Berserker's Greaves or Merc Treads if you're feeling defensive * Catalyst -> Rod of Ages (he's so squishy - this really helps, plus gives him way more mana to spam) * Madreds's Bloodrazor (attack speed and even MORE damage per hit) * Nashor's Tooth (AS, AP, CDR, mana regen, all of which are very good on him) * Hextech Gunblade * Guinsoo's Rageblade With all this you end up with very high AD, max or close to max AS, massive on-hit damage and good survivability as well. Plus, you can spam your R quickly while doing high damage and not running out of mana. Infinity Edge isn't a bad item on any AD, but again because Kog does so much damage naturally per hit, it makes more sense to give him attack speed as opposed to raw AD. Quote
Bleck Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 the thing about building ap kogmaw is oh hey look the entire enemy team built a force of nature and now since your carry is build ap for some reason nobody can actually do significant amounts of damage meanwhile graves runs up and kicks kogmaw in the dick Quote
Tensei Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Stacking AD doesn't really do much for Kog'maw either though (though I suppose it's more effective than pure AP). I think the optimal itemization is very similar to Teemo, kind of a balance between attack speed and on-hit effects (Madreds, Wit's End, Malady) Quote
The Author Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 How about attack speed and AP, using surge to complete the build. You get bioarcane barrage doing the job, but can still dish out high damage abilities. Quote
Dexie Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 the thing about building ap kogmaw is oh hey look the entire enemy team built a force of nature and now since your carry is build ap for some reason nobody can actually do significant amounts of damagemeanwhile graves runs up and kicks kogmaw in the dick How is Graves since his nerfs? I haven't seen him in a single game since the patch. Quote
zircon Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 People tend to get upset at the slightest nerfs and buffs. Like Morgana was really out of favor for awhile (or so it seemed to me), then she gets some very minor improvements and skyrockets into being permabanned. Graves is probably still amazing. Quote
The Derrit Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Graves is still amazing. yeah pretty much Quote
Jamphibious Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Based on when I've played him since the patch, he is slightly less amazing but still very good. They nerfed his range but he was always rewarded for being close and Buckshotting faces so its not so bad. He still has great mobility and escape from his Quick Draw and Smokescreen. The Buckshot nerf is noticeable but it still hurts. Quote
Bleck Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 graves went from being unstoppable in the right hands to just plain old good he's still better than most of the carries in the game, miss fortune still sucks, and corki continues to secretly be amazing Quote
Dexie Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 he's still better than most of the carries in the game, miss fortune still sucks, and corki continues to secretly be amazing Hurr, don't worry guys, we're gonna buff Miss Fortune this patch. Hurr, .05 AD added to her ultimate, she's in line with other ranged carries now! Quote
prophetik music Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 Hurr, don't worry guys, we're gonna buff Miss Fortune this patch.Hurr, .05 AD added to her ultimate, she's in line with other ranged carries now! i play mf as a jungler. Quote
Dexie Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 i play mf as a jungler. How's that working out for you? I've always wanted to try it, but I don't trust matchmaking enough to jungle. Quote
Vilecat Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 I just went 1/5/0 as Fizz. Definately don't think he's my character. How's Fizz btw? I haven't bought him since he doesn't look like my type of character much (I'm either not great with gankers or I just get fail teams. Or both). Still enjoying Vlad, Tryn and Shyvana. I haven't played Maokai since the buffs/nerfs patch. Quote
Dexie Posted November 17, 2011 Posted November 17, 2011 How's Fizz btw? I haven't bought him since he doesn't look like my type of character much (I'm either not great with gankers or I just get fail teams. Or both).Still enjoying Vlad, Tryn and Shyvana. I haven't played Maokai since the buffs/nerfs patch. Every Fizz I've played against has done well with him. He's got a good kit (And a near broken ultimate), he's just not the kind of character I like. Quote
prophetik music Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 How's that working out for you? I've always wanted to try it, but I don't trust matchmaking enough to jungle. i wasn't being serious. i was making fun of phreak, while agreeing with bleck. Quote
Dexie Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 i wasn't being serious. i was making fun of phreak, while agreeing with bleck. Should have said something about a Triforce and dealing tons of damage, then I would have gotten it. Quote
kitty Posted November 18, 2011 Posted November 18, 2011 MF actually is a good (not great) ganker but I wouldn't go as far to say she's a good jungle. She can strut in, slow champs, and hit'em in the back for more damage with q. She can do it but there's probably like 20 better jungles out there. Quote
Vilecat Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/legacy-skin-project-begins-november-25th They're retiring some of the oldest skins for better ones apparently. Also Vlad animation revamp inc with new skin (already in the shop). Seems like they're gonna make the blob of blood less retarded, judging by the video Edited November 21, 2011 by Vilecat Quote
Dexie Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 The animations are just for the new skin. It's a legendary one, so that's why. Quote
The Author Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 No need for deep posts analyzing the mechanics of it, I just think Poppy is one of the more fun champions I have seen. Quote
prophetik music Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 unless she doesn't get farmed, in which case she is horrid and boring. Quote
Vilecat Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 unless she doesn't get farmed, in which case she is horrid and boring. Isn't that the case for most heroes though Quote
The Author Posted November 23, 2011 Posted November 23, 2011 I'm also enjoying Orianna, but I like champions where you have to be more involved in their skill use. Quote
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