Frederic Petitpas Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 lol ? Why is it tuned backward ? GDAE, not EADG ? How do you play that ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 lol ?Why is it tuned backward ? GDAE, not EADG ? How do you play that ?? ? Please tell me you are joking metal... Put it up under your chin for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPanic Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Think about it like this When you are at standard position (at the chin), the easiest approachable note with the bow would be the E in a GDAE tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Think about it like thisWhen you are at standard position (at the chin), the easiest approachable note with the bow would be the E in a GDAE tuning. Rather, the E string requires the most weight to be in the string to get it to sound. It's easier for a player to hit the E string with the dead weight of their arm+gravity when the string is closer to you and get a nice full sounding tone. When playing further away from you, on the G string hehe for example, you have to angle your bow arm and torque a bit with the wrist in order to get gravity to work for you. Much harder to do that if the thicker string was on the outside. And violinists say Bassists don't know anything... Stringcism I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 lol ?Why is it tuned backward ? GDAE, not EADG ? How do you play that ?? It's tuned in 5ths man. 5ths! Instant power chords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPanic Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Rather, the E string requires the most weight to be in the string to get it to sound. It's easier for a player to hit the E string with the dead weight of their arm+gravity when the string is closer to you and get a nice full sounding tone. When playing further away from you, on the G string hehe for example, you have to angle your bow arm and torque a bit with the wrist in order to get gravity to work for you. Much harder to do that if the thicker string was on the outside. And violinists say Bassists don't know anything... Stringcism I say. Let's just imagine that's totally what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Hakštok Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Rather, the E string requires the most weight to be in the string to get it to sound. It's easier for a player to hit the E string with the dead weight of their arm+gravity when the string is closer to you and get a nice full sounding tone. When playing further away from you, on the G string hehe for example, you have to angle your bow arm and torque a bit with the wrist in order to get gravity to work for you. Much harder to do that if the thicker string was on the outside. And violinists say Bassists don't know anything... Stringcism I say. If you implied that E string is the thickest in the GDAE tuning, I'd have to say you're wrong. From what I know, G string is the thickest (ergo tuned the lowest). Each next string is tuned 7 semitones higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gario Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Why is it tuned backward ?GDAE, not EADG ? ... I never even thought of it that way. Hahaha... In all seriousness, though, it's primarily due to the fact that the neck lengths of a violin/viola are quite small in comparison to a standard guitar, so it's much easier to travel along the neck & between strings when there's a fifth between strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 It's tuned in 5ths man. 5ths! Instant power chords. Oh, GOD. I should have read all of the letters. Cant believe I didn't see that and I was thinking about my bass when responding. Violin Family=5ths Viol Family= 4ths Stringcism be damned. Yea I'm looking at you. Cellist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederic Petitpas Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 I dunno, it would make sens to me if it was DGBE because I'm a guit player and my first 4 strings are tuned dgbe. My mom gave me her violin yesterday.. I really wanna play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomba Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I dunno, it would make sens to me if it was DGBE because I'm a guit player and my first 4 strings are tuned dgbe. This might come as a shock, but a violin is not a miniature guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 lol ?Why is it tuned backward ? GDAE, not EADG ? How do you play that ?? you just have to not think of it like a guitar! The strings are a 5th apart whereas the guitar is tuned in 4ths but a 5th up is a 4th down and vice versa so... they're backwards, kinda... Except it goes left to right = lowest to highest, in case you thought it was REEAALLY backwards! You play it how you play it! hahaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederic Petitpas Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I will have to get used to it I guess, it's just very differant! The fingering must be hard ! It's a very interesting challenge tho. What should I know first ? (And I'll check for tuts on YouTube) I thought I would be able to apply what I know on guitars to violin but that'll be for the linear aspect of a single string only.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I will have to get used to it I guess, it's just very differant!The fingering must be hard ! It's a very interesting challenge tho. What should I know first ? (And I'll check for tuts on YouTube) I thought I would be able to apply what I know on guitars to violin but that'll be for the linear aspect of a single string only.. Please, don't go to youtube. Support the music community and go get lessons! Youtube can't beat 1 on1 for these types of instruments. other than pressing your fingers down on a string and the calluses you got from that, nothing else will carry over to the instrument. Using the bow itself takes many years to become functional and a lifetime to master. Check for Rabbath's Art of the Bow to get your mind right. The bow is much more complex than merely drawing it across the string. It functions around a complex system of always moving levers and fulcrums. When you first pull the bow from the frog, by the time you get to the tip you just witnessed the physics of the bow completely reverse from where you started. The weight of the bow itself, gravity, where you are in the bow stroke, feeling every vibration throughout the stroke... and I haven't even hit the subtle and relaxed wrist and finger movements that you need to develop to produce a steady tone. Welcome to the art of real string playing guitarist. You have many long years ahead of you if you decide to commit to that instrument. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Lern 2 fifths nub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannthr Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Oh, GOD. I should have read all of the letters. Cant believe I didn't see that and I was thinking about my bass when responding. Violin Family=5ths Viol Family= 4ths Stringcism be damned. Yea I'm looking at you. Cellist! Violin is 5ths from G below middle C Viola is 5ths from C below middle C Violincello is 5ths from C twice below middle C Contrabass is 4ths from E thrice below middle C - Unless it has a low C extension, in which case it's C, A, D, G as the open notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannthr Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I dunno, it would make sens to me if it was DGBE because I'm a guit player and my first 4 strings are tuned dgbe.My mom gave me her violin yesterday.. I really wanna play it. Then it wouldn't sound like a violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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