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My own songs sound boring to me....

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As I try to make them sound more intresting, alot of times my own songs sound boring, even the good ones.

then other people say it sounds cool. then I start to thing it sound sweet but it prob because I listen to it X amount of times when I make it :o

My question here is do your own songs sound boring to you?

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As I try to make them sound more intresting, alot of times my own songs sound boring, even the good ones.

then other people say it sounds cool. then I start to thing it sound sweet but it prob because I listen to it X amount of times when I make it :o

My question here is do your own songs sound boring to you?

No, I love listening to my own music.

You write a lot of dance music, right? Mostly electro-house and complextro? Maybe try writing in a completely new genre or outside of traditional genres.

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No, I love listening to my own music.

You write a lot of dance music, right? Mostly electro-house and complextro? Maybe try writing in a completely new genre or outside of traditional genres.

mainly proghouse in dance, but thats changing to electro as you said!

I do a bit of everything i guess. But country.

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If you listen to it enough times even something you are were initially really fond of will be extremely tiring to listen to. Usually I can never finish a piece from beginning to end in a few hours like some of the talent that's here. I'll deal with a large chunk of it then put it on the shelf and go back to it a month or two later with some new ideas.

Honestly though Sonic, you have some really good production skills, of which i am quite jealous of, but alot of things I have heard from you before lack development. Many times you will come up with something that sounds really cool, but then draw it out until much of it sounds like a long intro that's building to something but not quite getting there.

When you have a good idea like that, have that be what you build to. A complete musical statement is what you should be aiming for and you never want to throw away your peaks by over stating them or giving them away too soon.

Take my post with a big heaping bowl of salt if you want. My stuff doesn't sound nearly as good as yours production wise. Now that I have said that...

Finish your Sonic 2 Emerald Hill Zone remix!!!!:banghead:

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Honestly though Sonic, you have some really good production skills, of which i am quite jealous of, but alot of things I have heard from you before lack development. Many times you will come up with something that sounds really cool, but then draw it out until much of it sounds like a long intro that's building to something but not quite getting there.

my intros are short compared to others ; / (hell my songs are all short)

you mean this? http://soundcloud.com/aires/emerald-hill-hd

I listen to music more repetitve then the music I make, and I dont get tired of them, unless there rediculously repetitve.

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:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

That's not what he meant by changing genre.

He said I mainly write electro, and I just wanted to say I just started to write electro mor...oh wait im about to have a debat with neb, just gunna avoid that colloquy.

@gar

Oh thats what you ment, the title...

There is a remaster I did not post yet for a few reasons.

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my intros are short compared to others ; / (hell my songs are all short)

you mean this? http://soundcloud.com/aires/emerald-hill-hd

I listen to music more repetitve then the music I make, and I dont get tired of them, unless there rediculously repetitve.

To me it sounds like a near constant building to something. After one minute I'm thinking. "Oh man this is about to be awesome! " Then a little further "We gotta be almost there here it comes!" then it's over.

Music needs an ebb and flow. Build and Release. If you want a really good example of this without much repetition check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgNoadKcIWg

I'm working on something that is requiring me to do a little trance/house/club research. So far I feel like it's an excercise in extreme patience. All I hear is "Go Spot! Go Spot Go! Go Spot! Go Spot Go!" Repeat for about 4 minutes before it's finally over. Along with the Dumb-Chick-Dumb-Chick-Dumb-Chick. :)

You may hate country (like me) but why not try Bluegrass? Or Jazz Bluegrass Fusion? Bela Fleck?

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To me it sounds like a near constant building to something. After one minute I'm thinking. "Oh man this is about to be awesome! " Then a little further "We gotta be almost there here it comes!" then it's over.

Music needs an ebb and flow. Build and Release. If you want a really good example of this without much repetition check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgNoadKcIWg

I'm working on something that is requiring me to do a little trance/house/club research. So far I feel like it's an excercise in extreme patience. All I hear is "Go Spot! Go Spot Go! Go Spot! Go Spot Go!" Repeat for about 4 minutes before it's finally over. Along with the Dumb-Chick-Dumb-Chick-Dumb-Chick. :)

You may hate country (like me) but why not try Bluegrass? Or Jazz Bluegrass Fusion? Bela Fleck?

Oh, now I see what you mean.

Im just doing the plain old rise and drop thing, but just for electronic songs, all my other songs (which are kept) are pretty much like the link you posted and a mix of my style. The thing is, some of my songs I make sounds boring, until like weeks after making it. I was thinking about what you said in your first post about just being tired of listening to it for a while

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Hah, oh boi... this forum is fun.

Anywayzz, yeah, really try to do something different. You *do* write a lot of EDM which is repetitive by nature. Do something more exploratory, more experimental. It's fun to write music organically with no intentional structure; just flow. Once you have enough contiguous material written, you can reprise some parts so it sounds thematic and cohesive. I mean, the last thing you want is to be bored of your work. At for to me, it means I'm not making what *I* want to hear; I'm trying to please someone else or satisfy some external expectations. In doing that, I'm not expressing myself, and it's hard to get excited about music you have no personal investment in besides time.

Yeah, and what Gar said about Bela Fleck... do it. You won't regret it.

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Hah, oh boi... this forum is fun.

Anywayzz, yeah, really try to do something different. You *do* write a lot of EDM which is repetitive by nature. Do something more exploratory, more experimental. It's fun to write music organically with no intentional structure; just flow. Once you have enough contiguous material written, you can reprise some parts so it sounds thematic and cohesive. .

One more thing then i'll shut up.

Just in case I have moments where I am hitting the play button too often and not making any actual progress with the mix I have a backup plan full of Drum Loops, Drones, and other reference material (i am really big on using visual aids. Do a google search for abstract art that details the vibe you are going for) that I use to break through those blocks. This helps you to view what you are doing from different perspectives.

What killed my progress before, and many times still does, was my attitude towards making music. If I didn't absolutely intend every moment that I wrote then I should be ashamed for winging it and give up on music altogether. This caused me loads more frusteration and looking back, i regret every moment I felt like that.

When in doubt, just F$K around with it.

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Why not just make more interesting EDM?

Lol, this makes sense to me :P.

It's nice to branch out and try new things, but you obviously know what you're doing in this genre so you could always just doing new things within it.

After all, just because most of the EDM you listen to is repetitive doesn't mean that yours has to be.

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There's nothing wrong with getting "bored" by your own music. I guess you could equate it to the whole "the artist is always his/her greatest critic" thing.

I will however echo what Gar23 said. It is SO important to not do everything at once. Once you make significant progress with a track, shelve it and come back to it later. (I find a week is sufficient for me). You'll come back to it with a new perspective.

Just remember though, never spend too much time on one thing. Spending a heaps of time trying to get that bass sound right or tweaking that parametric EQ with surgical proficiency is really counter-productive. You're better off either moving to another part of the track, taking a break or just cutting your losses and mastering it as-is.

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Yes, this is the main problem for me. That’s why I try to get past the creational phase of making a song quickly but very very very rarely succeed. I have a stupid urge to start mixing away too early. Then I want to whip myself. My hard drive is full of amazing ideas and unfinished songs. Maybe giving them to another producer to finish them would be a solution.

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Yeah, I have the same issue sometimes.

But I also have the problem of not developing my piece enough. Most of the time. Once in a while I can whip out a gem that's polished and not boring.

However, when you start feeling stale on anything you've made, put it away. Come back to it another time when you have new ideas for it.

I once had a project sit for nearly three years until I was ready to finish it. In fact, I forgot about it until I searched through my projects for stuff to finish (being too lazy and lacking inspiration for a new one). I found a neat little project from 2016 with a changing time signature. I finished it a few months ago, and I'm still not completely satisfied with the end result. But it is pretty alright.

To sum it up:

Instead of rendering your tracks, put the project away after you have what you think might be a finished product. Forget it exists and open it later.

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