AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share Posted September 8, 2013 So Argle has been adding some of his own composition and new drums to the track as well as a hammond organ (very Black Mages sounding). There are also some more strings in the ballad section. One thing I'm thinking is that a live bass guitar would make this even more bitchin'. So if there is anyone out there interested in layin' down some bass. PM me and I'll share the WIP with you; see if you're up for it. I'll probably post an ad in recruit/collab too since that may be more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) So Argle has been adding some of his own composition and new drums to the track as well as a hammond organ (very Black Mages sounding). There are also some more strings in the ballad section.One thing I'm thinking is that a live bass guitar would make this even more bitchin'. So if there is anyone out there interested in layin' down some bass. PM me and I'll share the WIP with you; see if you're up for it. I'll probably post an ad in recruit/collab too since that may be more appropriate. Even though I don't do live bass, I could do good sequenced bass. I've got Spectrasonics Trilian on hand, which has some mean electric bass tones, and tops Shreddage Bass IMO. One of the basses sounds like the one in this, for example, from my ReMix of Brandon Strader's "My Choice". Edited September 8, 2013 by timaeus222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eino Keskitalo Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 So Argle has been adding some of his own composition and new drums to the track as well as a hammond organ (very Black Mages sounding). There are also some more strings in the ballad section. These sound like good ideas; I thought the soundscape was a bit sparse (though what was there was pretty good), and also I was fully expecting the strings join in in the final part. (One thing about the sparseness, I thought that it was really screaming for vocals! screaminggeddit!?) One thing I'm thinking is that a live bass guitar would make this even more bitchin'. Yes, that'd likely kick this up a level! --Eino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Updated first post links with the last version. New title, some new parts and improved mixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Do you think you could add that I supplied the bass part? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Do you think you could add that I supplied the bass part? Thanks! Argle actually wound up replacing it with one of his own. He has the Trillian bass as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnWake Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It sounds much more full now! Sounds great. Nice sounding bass. I don't think it was very noticeable last time. Pad that enters at 0:22 is a bit too loud imo. I love the sound in the organ (what library is it?). Strings are a nice addition to the following riff. They give a Dream Theater vibe, even though they seemed a tad too wet. Organ at 0:55 is cool too, but maybe slightly too wet. 2:07 sounds awesome! Very powerful. Nice song! My complaints are really small nitpicks, it sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 It sounds much more full now! Sounds great.Nice sounding bass. I don't think it was very noticeable last time. Pad that enters at 0:22 is a bit too loud imo. I love the sound in the organ (what library is it?). Strings are a nice addition to the following riff. They give a Dream Theater vibe, even though they seemed a tad too wet. Organ at 0:55 is cool too, but maybe slightly too wet. 2:07 sounds awesome! Very powerful. Nice song! My complaints are really small nitpicks, it sounds great Glad you like it! I have no idea what library the organ is from as it was provided by Argle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Argle actually wound up replacing it with one of his own. He has the Trillian bass as well? I would never have known if he had it. Honestly, Trilian is "very highly acclaimed", as it seems to be on the reviews on the Spectrasonics site, so I would have been happy with whatever sound came out of it (and I tend to always be). The WAV I sent back was a little off at the slowdown, but Argle could have easily sliced the WAV if it was off there. If I could do it, and I can, then he could do it. The only reason it was off was because of the last tempo change. I had to automate the tempo myself to get it perfect, but even then it got off after rendering. I also did very specific EQ on the bass to give it the low end power and polish. Edited September 11, 2013 by timaeus222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argle Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Do you think you could add that I supplied the bass part? Thanks! I couldn't get your bass to fit in this context. Sorry man. It was actually really hard for me to find a bass in Trilian that worked as well as the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argle Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It sounds much more full now! Sounds great.Nice sounding bass. I don't think it was very noticeable last time. Pad that enters at 0:22 is a bit too loud imo. I love the sound in the organ (what library is it?). Strings are a nice addition to the following riff. They give a Dream Theater vibe, even though they seemed a tad too wet. Organ at 0:55 is cool too, but maybe slightly too wet. 2:07 sounds awesome! Very powerful. Nice song! My complaints are really small nitpicks, it sounds great The organ is GSi VB3. A must buy if you want a great Hammond. About the part you thought was too loud, I checked the project and sure enough the automation was different than the later version. Your nitpick saves the day. I'll send ACO a new version tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I couldn't get your bass to fit in this context. Sorry man. It was actually really hard for me to find a bass in Trilian that worked as well as the original. Alright then, thanks for trying anyways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Sweet. Well, let us return this to "Mod Review". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eino Keskitalo Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 From a quick listen, sounds like a good update! Especially the organ (tasty sound there), and the strings at the end fill it out nicely. I'll try to give it a more thorough listen soonish and give more feedback. --Eino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlysm Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You must be a DT fan. I can really hear the influence in the song structure. The beginning reminds of "Beyond This Life" and "The Root of All Evil". Being a prog rock fan myself. I can appreciate all of the tempo changes, odd meters, etc. I really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Well, gonna give her a submit and see what happens. We should find out about a year from now. You must be a DT fan. I can really hear the influence in the song structure.The beginning reminds of "Beyond This Life" and "The Root of All Evil". Being a prog rock fan myself. I can appreciate all of the tempo changes, odd meters, etc. I really like it. Glad you like it! To be honest with you, I'm not really much of a Dream Theater fan though I do like a handful of songs from various albums of theirs. I'm more into Symphony X, Pagan's Mind or Circus Maximus for my prog.metal fix, but those bands are of course probably influenced by Dream Theater. Just about every prog. metal band is lol There are actually no odd time signatures in this track though; it's all in 4/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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