romandawesome Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If I were to directly remaster a song(Just rip the midi from the rom and improve the instrumentation) would that count as a remix or is it still not my own arrangement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Substantively, that's not your own arrangement, no. The MIDI was the arrangement. We need some level of creative interpretation as well. Check Section 4 here: http://ocremix.org/info/Submission_Standards_and_Instructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Substantively, that's not your own arrangement, no. The MIDI was the arrangement. We need some level of creative interpretation as well.Check Section 4 here: http://ocremix.org/info/Submission_Standards_and_Instructions If it's ripped from the ROM, even the MIDI itself isn't an arrangement - it's the original composition, just converted. If it's an existing MIDI arrangement from vgmusic.com or similar, there *IS* at least the possibility that with extensive remastering/rendering AND the full consent/permission of the arranger, you could submit a collaboration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romandawesome Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 So if I were to say change up the drums completely, change the instrumentation, and get permission from the composer I could submit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 So if I were to say change up the drums completely, change the instrumentation, and get permission from the composer I could submit it? Technically, if you get permission, then yes, you can submit it (though really the original composer should submit it), but there is no guarantee that the arrangement will be substantially different enough to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romandawesome Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Ok then what I'll probably do is just use the main flutes(cause if I recreated it it would be literly the same) and recreate everything else would that work(the song is endless battle from fire emblem 12)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think your focus should be more on rearranging the game's theme rather than reproducing it directly. Create your own backing, and when you are writing the melodies from the original, give it a bit of your own flair. Let it sound similar to the original, but put a grace note here or there, or organize the melody in a more approachable way that is still familiar to people who hear it. OCR isn't really about remasters or covers, it's more about the re-arrangement. There's some mixes that are more conservative, but still in that case the conservative mixes don't rely on notes/data that were ripped from the game or taken from a midi. There's nothing wrong with doing remasters/covers for say, YouTube, but it's not really the goal of OC ReMix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Ok then what I'll probably do is just use the main flutes(cause if I recreated it it would be literly the same) and recreate everything else would that work(the song is endless battle from fire emblem 12)? The point of the differences is to show the effort in transforming the source tune and the personalization that can be put into remixing it. Even if the instruments are different, if the notes and dynamics are too close to the same, then it still counts as a MIDI-exact arrangement. We don't forbid conservative remixes, but we do try to encourage a substantially different interpretation in the notes, instrumentation, mixing, and overall structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romandawesome Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Ok thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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