anachromium

Wow, thank you so much everyone! This one makes me really happy and I'm glad you all could enjoy the track! 
(And as more people asked in the comments: no french horn, everything you hear from brass is trombone. Alto trombone for the recitative in the beginning and + first quiet organ-verse and tenor trombone for the accompaniment and the solo at the ending.)

Wow, thank you so much everyone! This one makes me really happy and I'm glad you all could enjoy the track! 
(And as more people asked in the comments: no french horn, everything you hear from brass is trombone. Alto trombone for the recitative in the beginning and + first quiet organ-verse and tenor trombone for the accompaniment and the solo at the ending.)

Wow, thank you so much everyone! This one makes me really happy and I'm glad you all could enjoy the track! 
(And as more people asked in the comments: no french horn, everything you hear from brass is trombone. Alto trombone for the recitative in the beginning and + first quiet organ-verse and tenor trombone for the accompaniment and the solo at the ending.)

Wow, thank you so much everyone! This one makes me really happy and I'm glad you all could enjoy the track! 
(And as more people asked in the comments: no french horn, everything you hear from brass is trombone. Alto trombone for the recitative in the beginning and + first quiet organ-verse and tenor trombone for the accompaniment and the solo at the ending.)

It's results time.
Wassup Thunder did a bonus mix
HarlemHeat360 collected 7 points and gets the last place wooden spoon.
TheVideoGamer has 9 points and gets fourth place.
TheVodouQueen gathered 14 points and gets third place.
Souperion has 17 points, worth a second place.
And the winner of PRC422 is Anachromium with 22 points.
Anachromium you are the winner. You may pick a source for PRC424. Send the source to me (with a MID/MP3 file, otherwise send a second source with a MID file) by PM, other options are PM me @ ThaSauce or by e-mailing to bambombim@gmail.com (I prefer a PM @Ocremix). Send your source as fast as you can, but before next Wednesday (10 March 2021), 11:00 AM ThaSauce time (18:00 UTC, 19:00 GMT).
You may select any source from any game, but not a source with an OverClocked remix or a source which has been used in PRC before. An overview of the past PRC's can be found in the following links (I recently updated this site):
http://sites.google.com/site/bambombim/prc
http://bambombim.googlepages.com/PRCRemixList.doc (also downloadable via the link above).
 
Hopefully I didn't make any miscalculation because I was in a rush. The winner is correct for sure, hopefully the votes are readable because I see a lot of <p> and stuff like that.
 
http://compo.thasauce.net/votes/index/PRC422 for the votes and comments.
PRC423 already started: http://compo.thasauce.net/rounds/view/PRC423

Gratz to Anachromium, that was a real treat to listen to. Fun round, meet ya'll at Grillby's later.

Congrats @anachromium.
And GJ to everyone else.

My vote's in without complications. Seems fine to me.

Good idea, I'll send a PM to Bundeslang.
 
EDIT: Bug seems to be fixed, I was able to vote.

Indeed interesting perspectives! So many things to discuss and so little space in a thread.
I know that Schönberg and Stravinsky can bit a little bit heavy on the newcomer, that's why I recommended his early works like "Verklärte Nacht" which still is very much in the realms of tonality, but he already bends it heavily - which was befitting the question I assumed. (He was around 25 when he composed it.) But maybe I was overambitious - one never knows. Always reach for the stars. ;)
The grain of salt I'd like to give back, as I'm only a musician, not a neurologist. I didn't know that people lose perfect pitch, that's completely new to me. And just to clarify: I fully second your point, that you have to train it. Perfect pitch without training is probably no big help, but I also don't know, how one without the ability could train it and get even close to one, that could do it as long es he could think. I don't think I have it, but I can - at least on my instruments, that I practise daily - guess the played pitch relatively accurate. But I also don't think, it's a necessary skill to call a note by its name when hearing it, without any context - as long as you don't sing contemporary music, there it's an extremely big help. On the other hand relative pitch hearing I would consider extremely important, this is also what Mr. Beato recommends at the end of the video. The rest, being able to imagine a timbre for example, I would consider "visualisation"-skills that can be trained like any other skill - and should. (I relate this heavily to the way a chess master is visualising the chess board and the pieces, which feels extremely difficult, but is surprisingly easy - don't say it's easy, just easier than I thought - once you realize that it's just so hard because your brain has never done it before.)
Now I've been rambling. But you can always reach out to me via PM or on discord (I've been attending the thasauce server for a couple of days) if you'd like to discuss some points further that would blow this up too much. This is interesting stuff. ;) (Same offer to @The Vodoú Queen if you have any questions whatsover regarding what I said!) Always an open ear, especially in these times where social distancing is the rule rather than the exception. And nothing's better than a good, respectful discussion that everyone leaves a little bit wiser than he/she entered.

The problem with Schoenberg, Stravinsky and the like, is that if you are uneducated or unaware of these guys work (And to a degree background), it gets thrown in the usual garbage bin as, unwanted random dissonance, which only comes from those who just simply put it on, rather than understand why. When i was young i had to study this dude, (Schoenberg), and i did not enjoy his music at all, it was just unorganized, unfocused, it felt like some dude organising an orchestra of newbies to just to play their instruments, like no sheet music, just play randomly.  But as i grew, and studied him, i learnt what he was doing, and why. He wanted to break free of the convential music norms society has so clearly tried to hold onto. He's basically saying "Hey, we've done major and minor for so long, let's try the other end. Let's make it the norm". 
And if you want the other extreme, Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase. Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase. Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase. Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase. Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase. Steve Reich and the like, challenges us to deeply analyse the qualities of a continuously endless, simplistic looped phrase.....
Also in response to the perfect pitch debate (Just thoughts by the way, not saying this is the definitive answer):
1. People always like to think you either have perfect pitch or you don't, which i think it's bull. You cannot just get it from birth, that's quite a intense view to have. So while i might have gone a bit heavy on the idea that you can train it, i still think there is a time period to when one has perfected their pitch. It's the same as instrument prodigy's. When you say oh "this 5 year old is better than me" (After watching a video of some kid shredding the piano), your really looking at a talented individual with parents who have really pushed them to their limits (IE, they have done more intense practice sessions on their instrument than others, which is often due to strict parenting).  You can't just say they're better....well ok, i have to be honest (They're usually way better than me lol. Although i'm joking when i say this, they're pretty much self-esteem destroyers lol). 
2. The minute you get "it" the minute you have it is also a problem. I think there is a time frame, in that you can build-upon your discovery, to really make perfect pitch more perfect.
3. Majority say it goes away when you age, to where if your older, you have a harder time. I watched a video from a dude named Rick Beato about it. It's pretty fascinating.
Anyway's i don't want to ramble. Interesting perspectives eh?
Since you play in an orchestra, you probably have more hands on experience than me, so take my response with a grain of salt (After all, we are forgetting the other key elements, timbre, texture, tonality, tone, rhythm, tempo, arrangement etc...)
 

So true lol. Me and you are usually the first entries.
Well...except for when it's a tough one. I usually do a last minuter lol.

Vote in. See ya'll in a few days.

Love that tune!
(Gosh... why is it so hard, to even come up with an idea? I listen to the tunes and they always sound perfect to me the way they are. And then you come up with remixes that feel so natural as if they were supposed to be that way from the beginning. Just: how do you do that?  )

Also, just for clarification:
The record crackling and sound of a needle dropping are done purposefully in my song (it's not it hitting vol ceilings or artifacting). Although I made the joke about band class, I wanted to give the song an 'authentic' feel to it, like old mono phonographs and record players.
Was me kind of remembering the old days when my folks would play old jazz and blues from RCA and Atlantic record labels back in the day.
I feel old now... xD >.<;

Love that tune!
(Gosh... why is it so hard, to even come up with an idea? I listen to the tunes and they always sound perfect to me the way they are. And then you come up with remixes that feel so natural as if they were supposed to be that way from the beginning. Just: how do you do that?  )

Awesome! I love it when we all pile in on the last couple of days!

Sorry on my part too for being a bit late.
The dissonance thing is a tricky one to get right, because of two reasons that usually intersect. a) The more often you listen to a part, the more you get used to the dissonance. This is tricky, because one loses the ability to feel how the dissonance is perceived by first-time listeners. I personally tend to give the piece a couple of days at rest and give it a fresh listen, trying to catch up on everything that strikes my ears immediately. b) What do you want to achieve with the dissonance? Just make it sound "wrong" or do you want to lead it into another direction? For the latter, I would advice: listen to Richard Strauss. His music is full of crazy harmonics, especially his later compositions, or maybe the early Schönberg. ("Verklärte Nacht" for example.) This composers were masters of harmonics and they challenge us performers every time we play those compositions, because WE have to get the harmonic directions right to make the piece sound like it should.
When you deal with MIDI: try to pick up the notes, that sound too "wrong" for the purpose you want, and adjust them a little bit. Fiddle around, until you find something that works - it's often tiny changes in melody, that adept it to a new key. For example, for PRC422 (Undertale - Ruin) I'll use the first bar of the theme as an ostinato-style bass figure, but as I'll play with the chords and the melody above, I'll have to change a note here and there until it fits together again - which also makes the composition a little bit more interesting most times as it's not always the same then.
I have to disagree with @TheVideoGamer about perfect pitch. I don't think one can train it - but I also think you don't it. There is so much more to listening skills than just identifying what note is played exactly, and training those other skills is far more important than that. Put on some good music and listen actively, search for everything you can hear, look out for the timbre and all the "little things" one isn't suppose to notice. I do it all the time when I'm sitting in the orchestral pit. (As a trombone player I have plenty of time during an opera! ) I'll close my eyes and try to identify all the different instruments, where they are, how they sound today, maybe try and figure out who plays if I haven't seen the colleague before the performance.
Hope, this helps you in any way.
 
And before I forget, three last points: There are no stupid questions. "Music theory" is only the scientific way of saying "Mozart and Bach did it that way". Stay curious - that's all you need!

Welcome to the voting stage
The mixing stage is over. This round has 5 songs and 1 bonus mix by Wassup Thunder. The following people compete against each other:
TheVideoGamer 
Souperion 
Anachromium
TheVodouQueen
HarlemHeat360
 
To vote, do the following:
Visit http://compo.thasauce.net/rounds/view/PRC422 and listen to all the entries
Scroll to the form at the bottom of the screen or click PM.
Fill in the entries from first to third in the ThaSauce form or fill in your top 3. Do not vote for Wassup Thunder.
State a reasoning for it.
Participants are encouraged to vote and leave feedback. They get a 3 point bonus, but they are not allowed to vote for their own track.
Always look in this thread to find out who's the winner of the round after the voting stage instead of only looking at ThaSauce for the results.
 
You have until Monday March 1st 2021 10:59 AM ThaSauce time (11:00 UTC, 12:00 GMT) to vote.
If you vote by PM make sure that your top 3 is clear. I prefer something like this:
(To)
(Subject)
PRC ### Vote
(Message):
1: (remixer A )
2: (remixer B )
3: (remixer C )
 
(reasoning)
 
The winner may choose the source tune for PRC424. PRC423 starts in a couple of minutes (Bomberman Hero - Redial)..

And my entry's in too!

And my entry's in too!

And the same for me too! Got a nice idea and this time no tea over laptop is going to stop me cause im using my old PC. 

And the same for me too! Got a nice idea and this time no tea over laptop is going to stop me cause im using my old PC. 

And the same for me too! Got a nice idea and this time no tea over laptop is going to stop me cause im using my old PC. 

And the same for me too! Got a nice idea and this time no tea over laptop is going to stop me cause im using my old PC.