Yeah. The Zen I have is several years old. That's really sad that Creative is being stupid like that. I remember as a kid Creative was always the top of the line and remained that way growing up.
My roommate had a Fuze, I think. Or something. It definitely wasn't the clip. It would short out or die randomly. There were just a lot of things wrong with it, each time. It was so bad, they just sent him a brand new one and that didn't even work.