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sweet - 6 hour drive from nashville (have one more seat in the hybrid) i'll bring whatever - or more appropriately grab whatever when i get there

oh we got that - it's called the hyper editor yeah andy - idk man - there's no point getting into it - you like your thing - i'm happy with mine - but logic does have all that functionality - maybe the layout is dif and you can work faster - but i'm pretty happy - no reason to steer people away from good software but if you want a make a vid and show me what i'm missing - i'll be glad to watch

i hate coffee - much more of a tea person

dude i am so sick of people saying daw wars - it comes with the territory naturally cause people get very accustomed a working environment and lot of it can be out of your hands with software - i was just curious what all the real hype is about fl's piano roll - and i'm still not seeing it otherwise use whatever tool you like

Zirc - just like shaun said - it's all there - you can't refute it Now I have 3 tools easily at my disposal with left, right, and with my command click (you can't really say that hitting an easy modifier is that much trouble ). I usually have my pointer tool on left and pencil on the right, with my velcocity tool set for the command click for the piano roll (each editor you can set 3 dif tools). All these are easily changable in the top right and will continue to follow which I ever tool I want them to be if I know going to continue my editing in a certain format. Now getting to your concerns. Pencil tool does exactly like you say with one click and keeping the same duration as last created/clicked yup - selector tool - i have mine set to go only left/right or up/down when i'm moving a note pencil reacts differently in that when i hold down it changes the duration of the note which i actually find more helpful - why would i want to click somewhere where i don't want the note :/ you could set it up for right click - or you could set it up for command click - which i actually would do if it wasn't for the velocity tool which gives me the ability to change velocity by clicking and drag on a note which find to be faster for my workflow - if i need to delete a note which isn't done as much as changing velocity then i'll just hit delete - it's really not that much longer to just hit delete with how often i do it again selector tool - resizes notes when on the end logic has all the same functionality you ask for and more especially with the hyper editor and transform window. the transform window is extremely powerful in doing large edits in one click. for example, say you give a performance where 127 triggers a sample you don't want - and you did it a bunch through a long take. bring up the transform window - set up your maximum midi velocity for 126 and logic will take care of the rest for you. you can set up all kinds of parameters to be automated/fixed and you can even put objects into the arrange to affect hardware or software instruments.

ok - pulled the trigger on 9 haven't gotten to mess with everything (like flex) but about the amps - i'm pretty shocked with some of the tones i'm getting - i went direct and was pretty sad at first - but i mic'd a clean signal and am getting some pretty awesome tones - standard metal guitar is not really happening as well as gr3 but everything else sounds great - i can get some pretty dirty and even rough tones but i like metal guitar stuff to be tight and controlled want to get more into flex time - been hearing about some bugs people have been finding on the net back to the piano roll - here's a brief video showing the pane i'm talking about http://www.ehow.com/video_4460334_piano-roll-options-logic-pro.html another thing to consider when editing in logic is the hyper editor which often gets overlooked - you can do volume and other data in musical divisions more similar to fl - if thats what your looking for - and you program drums similiar to fl too - the only thing is logic gives you so much flexibility that you have to go in there and kinda program you want to get the desired effect - but once you take a little of time and know what you like - it's pretty easy - i did one for my addictive drum set and it's pretty killer and intuitive here's some info on hyper http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/logictech_0408.htm

there's a little button at the bottom left corner in the piano roll - clicking on this brings up the automation/velocity data it's been around since i've had 6 i think

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well - like i said - you can bring up that other window at the bottom and see strictly velocity info and do one click edits if holding a modifier and dragging is too much work

fixed - hehe yeah stevo you guys get ideas send them out as soon as they come in and it'll start coming together

being that it's such a big track i'd like to blow it up and develop some of the ideas - i'll do some listening over the week and get back to you - and do some taking to stevo - this should be fun xD

john - how about me, you and level 99 do the opening - a big militaristic thing with guitars and orchestra - we'll figure out the arrangement and get you to put some orchestral sex down and we'll be gold and have a fantastic way to open the album

whoa! you didn't start trashing logic in a logic thread did you xD but i do want to understand the differences so thanks for chiming in logic has a pane at the bottom of the piano roll that pulls up velocities and you can do one clicks and grab as well as lines (line tool) - but even easier for me for small tweaks is assigning my command tool in the piano rolls as my velocity tool so i can command click and watch the velocity change right there. another thing to consider with editing is logic's transform command window which can change huge amounts of data in an automated fashion that can save lots of time. logic has 3 tools at your fingertips at all times - with right clicking, and command clicking - you also have a zoom tool there so thats 4 - hitting esc you get all your tools right there - so it doesn't take much more time.

i'll ask long for you nokonoko - he probably still has the midi data

this came out great brian! it really works fantastic on your website the soft section break after the beginning with it's lead back into the heavy stuff is my fav part - high quality stuff - i gotta talk orchestra stuff with you some time

floating bridges are the worse - you can pay a luthier to block them to help with intonation as for the frets - bad frets may be in order but keep in mind that guitars are naturally out of tune - not by much - you need to make sure to go in and intonate your guitar correctly and as for playing you gotta watch if your bending strings while your playing chords

what is you don't like about the piano roll jimmy? first of all the color coded velocities is super helpful which fl misses out on

mmmmmm - this is fantastic i actually am liking the idea of just guitars if you don't want to do more production I think percussion would help (drumming on your guitar could be a really neat idea) - overall everything could be tighter - get that click solid the advice for bass may help, an acoustic bass guitar would be ideal, djembe would be cool, flute is a great idea, but your gonna have to work more on the arrangement with all that jazz - if you want to keep it simple i think it could work - i actually like the idea of you just doing everything with guitar and getting creative with it now some of the ideas could be a little more compressed and to the point - but everything feels really good - can't wait to see what happens with this

mm - if you want better sounds go with kontakt - 9 will be waiting - but the word is both of them address more ram now which is fantastic also - www.macprovideo.com goes over some of the new features in some free vids if you guys want to check it out

metal tones seem weak - but in terms of vintage tones - i'll be pulling the trigger soon - still curious to see what happens with snow leopard (kinda interesting they say it's only compatible with the newest version of leopard)

brian - his comments about the imp is referring to where we put your track - in that it's intense and we say that in the game they have to go out and battle harsh foes at that moment - who just so happen to be imps heh your track has def grown on me - and i think it will for others too - you keep a nice pacing - and what you did with the guitars came out pretty awesome thanks for the read david - you have a good ear and picked up on so many things - very cool

if your on a pc - just use winamp or itunes - you shouldn't be having a problem like that - i make no comment on products made by microsoft tho

the track should be about 30 mins and the only real silence comes in about the end all the sounds used come from the original sounds in the song

your awesome dan! love this arrangement and am amazed at how much you get these instruments to speak truly fantastic

hey tostilism - just stick around and enjoy the music - your more than welcome - there's lots on here you will find you'll like i know i have