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Well heres a shot at staying on topic: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/716071 Another video of the Zelda Wii U Graphical Tech Demo (this one up close) for those who haven't seen it. Again, just a tech demo, may not even be on real / final hardware 1st Party games so far: Some of these tablet demos im sure will be featured in some sort of Wii U Play Super Smash Bros installment Pikmin 3 I think this is about all the info we'll get until TGS Edit: some more "Tech Specs" so far, since Nintendo doesn't like to talk about that: CPU: IBM Power Architecture multicore (some rumors floating around based on Watson tech) GPU: ATI, Custom based on Radeon HD series (which one who knows) So, at least they've moved off single core and into modern 3D tech.

Ironically, example given FF7 had the most ground breaking graphics of its time. Now why would you play it? Story, Gameplay, Music, etc. Thats why people clammer for a remake, the only thing that doesn't stand the test of time IS graphics. So in the end they don't really matter. And honestly at this point, they probably aren't going to improve that dramatically simply because the cost of doing so keeps rising. If WiiHD can do 360/PS3 level graphics in 1080p that would be enough IMO. PS3/360 can't do (natively) 720p half the time. If it can do better, well great too, but its not going to make any major impact. And if PS4/XboxWhatever can do better than that, it wont matter to Nintendo, they have this tablet idea they've focused on anyway, they will continue making Nintendo games and let PS4/XboxWhatever continue the endless "graphic arms" race that just costs more than its worth to Nintendo As long as they dont scare off 3rd party support like they usually do they will be more than fine. I just hope, unlike Wii, they will focus more on making their games top notch and less throwing gimicks at everything, but this Tablet kinda screams gimmicks so i guess we'll see. At least it has a normal control scheme again (dual analogs, buttons, etc)

Heavy Rain, the game thats very light on gameplay, but is mostly about story telling and multiple paths? Graphics overall don't matter for its story telling either if you boil it down. It just helps the fact theres not a lot of gameplay that you have something pretty to look at. But it could be low poly PS1 models if the story is good enough, you dont need "good graphics" to enjoy it. For example: lots of Japanese visual novels tell excellent stories with static 2d imagery. If you have to have pretty graphics to enjoy the story, then the story wasn't written well to begin with. Same goes for games: If you have to have pretty graphics to enjoy it, it probably isn't a fun game. A fun game can have good graphics, but it has to be fun gameplay wise first. Also the comment about Nintendo copying Sony because Sony made Wiimotes in HD makes zero sense. You can't copy an idea thats already yours and despite what Sony will have you believe, they didn't create HD

Citibank is also a terrible company. Coincidence? But considering this is a videogame related forum not sure why wed post about citibank or any other huge greed machine. Doesn't seem relevent. either way both sides are in the wrong: the attackers obviosly weither they think its justified or not, are in the wrong both because its an illegal activity, and innocents can get hurt, and the ones doing it for profit and no other reason are just thieves. And the attacked, at least the ones with poor/terrible security measures, are in the wrong for letting it happen. If they get hacked because some master hacker broke through all their stuff and decypted their data with magic well nothing could be done. If they fall to simple sql injections, use outdated software, left all data in plaintext, etc etc, then they didn't do their job. Generally, its the later

These latest attacks have no other purpose than to just see if it can be done (oh and of course make money dishonestly). Guess they are bored of Sony's complete inability to secure anything and looking for something more challenging Or like previously stated maybe they just thought it would be ironic because of the companies name

Boodidley is spot on. As for the current topic: I lost bowel control. Edit: oops uh... back to topic: wii u confirmed not to be gamecube compatible though we probably knew that already by now

PS1 was $300, Saturn was the one that was $400 and dropped quickly when the PS1 came out. PS1 did not have superior hardware at all (compared to N64), except the storage/sound capacity of the CD media Vs Cartridge. Everything else (CPU, RAM, Video, etc) was better in the N64. The cartridge format however limited any potential it had, and Nintendo tarnished relations with 3rd parties who liked the CD media better anyways. A very bad generation for Sega/Nintendo as both companies made terrible mistakes with hardware decisions and 3rd party relations, which Sony took quick advantage of

(Sony) The booing at the at&t deal probably didn't help One thing I wish the original wii had in 2006 was accurate motion controls. The motion plus still not being pushed very hard has really left the wii with not real motion controlled games but silly wagglin. Hopefully motion plus will be more used or even required by more wii u games that are motion controll based and not tablet based Since I believe it will be mandatory for skyward sword a lot more people will have motion plus devices.

Modus: Yeah I thought about that too. As sturdy as some Nintendo products (but not lately) are, give anything to a kid and he'll manage to break it. I imagine they will not offer replacement Wii U Tablets at launch simply because I imagine producing extras would be difficult to keep up with the initial demand. Screens are not easily mass produced as other simple controller components. Replacement Tablets I'm sure could be ordered through Nintendo customer service and/or made available in retail sometime in the future once demand slows down. I highly doubt Nintendo will force you to buy a whole new Wii U just to get a replacement tablet. At least not forever

Xzero: they showed off 5 player games so this doesn't in any way limit local multiplay, the other 4 were just wiimotes. This does kinda dash hopes for a four swords type game :/ guess there's always ds/i/3ds connectivity

Well this is disappointing, Fils-Aime has now mentioned apparently the 3rd party reel was composed of 360, PS3, or PC versions of the games, and were not running on Wii U hardware. So we haven't really seen any games on the Wii U, just those tech demos :/ well... IF those are running on actual Wii U hardware. I guess they just really wanted to show off the controller

Well with the PS VIta being $249 now, I can't imagine Nintendo sticking to this price point for much longer. Maybe it'll drop before any of the good games start coming out

The thread was about rumors of Nintendo's next console, this is Nintendo's next console? What do you mean?

Capacitative screens themselves cost more, up to double depending on the manufacturer, and to use a stylus on them even more costly, needs special "active stylus" Nintendo seems to be fine with using resistive screens for their devices both because its cheap and it can use a cheap stylus. Unfortunately for the user, it means no multitouch and weak non-stylus touch detection compared to the common devices out today. But DS family gets by with it, im sure Wii U will

One small issue with the Wii U controller: Touch screen is old style resistive, like the DS family touch screens, doesn't respond great to fingertips (comes with a stylus for fine control, just like DS) and no multi touch. Had to save money somewhere!

Overflow: I hope thats sarcastic lol

I'm guessing you dont have a PC, PS3, or 360 then (How did you play the first)? Its not Wii U exclusive

prophetik: Nothing else so far. Nintendo's focus was on 3DS this year, and just letting people see the new controller and tech demos, and to let people know 3rd parties are on board. They were quiet about any games they were working on themselves ArmadonRK: While not as confortable as the GC controller, people who have got to hold it in their hands have said its similar, though bulkier obviously. All Wii controllers work with it too. No word if this is GC compatible or has the ports, but I wouldn't bet on it. The button set is similar to Classic controller though, so maybe it will support that as an alternative for games that wont use the screen At least there will be less wagglin and more controllin

Bleck: IF they ever did those 3D enhanced remakes, those would be 3DS carts or 3DSware (ie 3D Classics Excitebike!), not VC releases. VC = emulated originals. Literally an emulator and ROM image paired together.

Link's Awakening DX is a Virtual Console game, emulated originals, like on the Wii's VC. No idea why you'd expected it to be in 3D! It is not a 3DSware game, like 3D Classics Excitebike; But, there is a crappy 3D on VC games you can do if you hold Select (or start?) when you boot it up. You get a 3D game boy border or something. Works on Super Mario Land I've read, not sure about Zelda, but I'd assume it works on all VC games.

Well, theres Super Mario (3DS)! Some terrible, terrible music in that trailer though.

Kinda disapointed we didn't get to see any Nintendo games on the WiiU, though the Zelda tech demo did look very nice. Seeing a bunch of games I can get on any other console / PC didn't really make me specifically want the WiiU. No real specs yet, but what they've shown off its definately on par with current gen consoles, if not better. That bird tech demo was pretty sleek, but the games didn't look much different than PS3/360 games. I guess thats the point though, easy ports The controller is pretty interesting, kinda like having a non-portable Vita to interact with your console. Sony can / will do this with the Vita im sure, but they'll have to rely on people buying both a Vita / PS3, where Nintendo has it bundled. Will be interesting to see what dev's come up with. Heres hoping for another Pacman Vs / Four Swords / etc games that never really got made for the Wii.

For those of you who thinks this makes the Snake Eater 3DS release useless: The 3DS release is a remake with better models/textures/etc, and more importantly, its portable. This release HD is same game, just in higher resolution.

Well I may have been incorrect as of my post but now I am correct: Lion is $30 too. Neblix: the stuff shown shows off the "real" windows inteface both full screen and side by side with the panels. Not sure why anybody thinks these panels aren't optional. Nobody apparently paying attention Also like everybody says wine is far from a perfect solution. Especially if you want games that arent decades old.

I forgot: They can still sell you the PS1 version of MGS1/Silent HIll on PSN, so thats probably why no effort to remake them for this collection. Still leaves 360 owners out though, but oh well. I'm sure there is also probably some PS2/PSP -> PS3/360 tools they developed and just didn't feel like making it fit for PS1 too They look fine in an emulator in "HD". Better then the sub SD resolution originals at least Could be. I'm more hoping for a remake of Metal Gear 1/2 (MSX) though.