Siamey

im talking a couple hundred ms, you can notice it and it sounds like shit. and i have no idea what you are talking about

nothing? nobody has the slightest idea what im talking about? hmm. cool.

fucking oldschool

niiiiice! post more if you have them!

Hey all, Whenever I use a vocoder in plain EQ mode (which sounds neat and could be useful of not for this problem), it adds a couple ms of latency to the signal coming out of it, which obviously renders it useless. Any thoughts on why they would have the EQ option if it cant be used properly? Is there a dial I need to turn to sync it back up? Thanks ps if you dont understand what im saying i can post a demo rns EDIT: it seems worse when I use the FFT 512 setting

Thank you, my point exactly

Whatever, I've taken much harder comments. I still stand by everything I said. I can fuck up anyone on the forums in Tekken Tag or 5, and in my oppinion button mashing doesnt work against a seasoned tekken pro. What kind of a reject can't handle a little sidestep action. and yes, I believe that capcom's fighting games (within the last 10 years) are a god damn joke. I hope you understood that when I said "capcom doesnt make fighting games anymore" I mean't that yes they do infact make games which people are duped into believing are fighting games because they have the street fighter logo on them but in reality, someone in japan maps out controls to a bunch of prerendered animations (case in point: any person with a big gun that flashes the entire screen or anyone who calls a jet on their radio to drop bombs on the arena) that were thrown together the day before, and puts a pretty background behind them. Guns dont belong in fighting games period. * vs capcom is a bad game and the producers should be hung.

Agreed, I've always wondered why namco needed a second rate fighting game series when they already make the best out there (sorry capcom. besides you dont even make fighting games anymore, you make interactive anime scenes with one rediculous guest star after the other. "waaaah dont judge me, button mashing takes skill waaah" yea Im sure you you need a docterate to figure out how to make cable fire his cannon that takes up 93% of the screen). After the yoda fight scene in episode 2, when all the fucking hicks in the theatre guffawed and clapped and hooted... I knew it was just a matter of time before lucas started whoring him out in new and revolting ways. The story of the starwars franchise is a sad one. And since when does vader have corduroy pants and sleeves? Time to get your character model designer some glasses or something.

Yea, thats the point Im trying to get accross is that its not out of their reach, its just not in their agenda, and thats what my problem is with them.

lol @ "then saying that it fucking needs a goddamn sampler otherwise its a piece of shit." cause it was funny as hell and it reminded me that i swear too much when i get all angsty when i post complaints. I agree with that though by the way AS, just cause they have 10 people doesnt mean its a small company. Reason is a very well selling product and since its not a physical thing (besides the packaging), there is no ceiling on their income. I would have a heard time believing that they couldnt afford to rewrite the core correctly (if it needed that).

Its perfectly sane to complain that a program you have used for years has suddenly made big changes that affect your workflow, so what the fuck are you talking about. Take your own advice, if you dont like it, dont read it. If its getting annoying then go home. I already sent letters, clearly explaining the problems with reason 4, this isn't just a bitch session, its a debate. Prop-heads is bullshitting about vsti support destroying the stability. If you have good programmers then there is nothing to bitch about. Besides, I personally don't care about vsti, but it just happens to be at the center of the issue Im bringing up, which is that Reason is fucking closeminded, and could be doing more to make their program interact well with other programs, at little cost to them. Im raising the issues that haven't been talked about on here yet, its not pointless complaining. I can assure you I've taken "constructive" actions on the matter. Just dont use reason if it doesnt suit you. :) Wow, I can honestly say that I have never heard that advice before, or even thought about it before. Imagine that, if something doesn't work for me, I should change it, what a novel idea. I can honestly say, with no hint of sarcasm, that I have never thought of that before. What the hell else is the reason forum for, if not talking about reason? Don't try to shut me up, it's annoying and unnessecary.

I don't want reason to be FL thanks, I left Fl cause Reason fucking wasn't FL. I've been using Reason as long as I can remember, and yes, for a long time the slogan was "stand alone music production thingy" and thats fine. But its time to get with the fucking program. Im going to assume that 100% of the anti-vsti-support people in this thread have no programming background and have little to no technical knowledge of how audio shit is written. Let me be the first to say that Reason is a beautiful program and its brilliantly written and the audio programming team and propheads is one of the best in the world. They know how to write a damn program. They know how to write damn vsti support that doesn't require a quad core to run the demo song. Besides, if its programmed properly, vsti support shouldnt slow the program at all when vsti isnt being used. Don't like vsti? dont fucking use it, ignore the fact that its in the "add device" menu in reason 5 or 6 or whenever they add it, because it WILL be added. If you think it won't... well... think again. There is no ancient tome of vsti programming knowledge scrawled on some temple wall, for us to painstakingly and badly translate, and thus add shoddy and cpu hogging support to our respective programs. Vsti is a worldwide standard and there is extensive documentation on how to add slick and steady support for it, given a programming staff that isnt inept. Almost every design choice they have made with reason, up until 4, I completely agreed with, but if they think they can survive, and grow into a program that will one day appear as the main platform for well known music tech schools with this closeminded approach then they are going the same way as Arp. Everyone was adding pitch bend wheels to their synths but Arp wanted to be unique so they held off even when they were standard EVERYwhere else. WHOOPS OUT OF BUSINESS. People will only follow a good product so far after the developers get stubborn... or lazy, which is... maybe what propellerheads is. The concept of Refills is another close-minded approach, and while I see what you mean about pissing off refill making companies... well... maybe thats what you get for investing in a possibly dead end product. And making my own multisamples from a vst complient DAW, every time I want to use a vsti sound is stupidly tedious, it would be a thousand times better to just use it natively, which they could very well do if they wanted :/ By the way everyone, "an unbiased review" was a joke. Ofcourse Im ranting and wigging out, ofcourse they are my oppinions, who elses would they be.

Hey thanks propellerheads, reason 4 is pretty cool. So fucking cool that the sequencer is completely different and extremely frustrating to use if you are used to any other version of reason. Thanks a fucking lot. WHOOPS there goes 80% of the fun of reason, out the damn window. WHOOPS there goes one of the reasons i switched from FL to reason in the first place; being able to get my ideas down. Ya know what? I used to be able to tell what song I had open by LOOKING at the sequencer overview. I have hundreds of songs. I could tell what song it was by looking at the way the groups were arranged. Now I can't tell my latest song that I've been working on from fucking Sealed Away which is like 45 years old. Thanks for sticking your big meddling dick in my workflow. If I wanted a sequencer that looked like it was torn messily and incompletely from Cubase, I would simply... well actually I would never want that, I would just go buy Cubase. Cubase is the only place you have to look, to see just what the fuck is wrong with Reason 4's sequencer. FUCK vector automation. Not useful, never will be. FUCK Thor. Bloated piece of anus that sounds like every other preset that is included with subtractor and malstroem. People claim that it has amazing potential; yea after you get a masters in what oscs sound good with what filters. Do something right for once in your fucking life propellerhead, add vsti support. At the very least add a realistic 303 module. Im sure you have the source code for rebirth sitting around somewhere; make it a fucking reason device. Hell, give the source to me, I know some guys who could do it. Don't give me this shit about "rebirth input machine". I want some squelchy 303 in my songs without having to write a second song in rebirth that syncs up with it. I want to automate the dials in rebirth the same way I do in reason. I want it all in one package!! I use reason cause its simple (or was) and logical (plug in some wires and go!), why do you think I want to learn rebirth too? Its one of the most frustratingly tedious ways of making music, apart from sampling a sesame street keyboard into windows sound recorder. For christ's sake, you ported the notoriously botch-able controls of the tb303 into the program for authenticity, and I am ALL for that! But times have changed, MAKE IT FUCKING ACCESSIBLE. It sounds almost like the real thing, let us use it in a way we never could the original!!!! "I'm so glad that I can automate the tempo and time signature now!!! Thank god!!!" Wow, specfuckingtacular. Guess what? Get fruityloops. Or Live. Or Cubase. Or any program that allows tempo automation. Its called rewire, its not hard. Thanks for the regroove mixer too, I always wanted my band to sound like my drummer was drunk. I won't go so far as to as to say that there are no redeeming qualities in Reason 4, but I will say that having 2 new buttons on the audio in/out device at the top, which allow you to nicely hide some of the few used features of the device, does not make up for the barrage of bullshit and updated skins that makes up the other 99% of the update. Maybe I should be thanking them for this update, its really opened my eyes and made me look around for other programs; shocked me out of my little reason-only fairyland. So there you have it. Im standing out in the cold and the rain, with my soaking bag of song ideas slung over my shoulder... abandoned by the program that got me where I am. I watched it become hard and metal and sleek, unfriendly and unusable. I need to get back to the basics. If I don't find a new land, one with lush green sequencers, crystal streams of superfluid workflows and an open door policy for immigrant softsynths, then I'll be forced back to Reason 3. Thank god I saved backups of all my version 3 song files songs onto a cd. Stick around for the next couple months and watch me completely start to love R4 or some shit :/ LOWL

nope sorry

they can kill you how? by opening the picture tube? or just even inside the case? omfg

Hey everyone, When are case fans needed? like yes almost every computer has them, but when are they actually absolutely needed? I just built this comp for my mom's friend. Nothing special, just a work computer. It's a work at home computer so I assume she's gonna use it for some small fun activities, but like no gaming other than solitare I would think. I also threw in a card reader cause she has a camera and whatnot. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3329104&CatId=31 Also, because I'm so awesome, I forgot to buy case fans of any sort. So its got the athlon's stock heatsink fan and the fan in the PSU, and it runs so damn quietly I can't tell its on. It's really quite nice. So.... is it going to catch on fire eventually? :O I've owned computers that didnt have case fans before. Mind you they were like Emachine computers with a 500mhz celeron :/ So... yes.. thats like 8 years ago... I took the fan off of a socket 478 heatsink (which i had scratched on the bottem and was keeping around thinking I would get around to lapping it but I never did) and put it in the front of the case, and its loud as hell so I unplugged it. I'd really just like it to be an awesomely silent computer. Is this a pipe dream or should I get a different fan? Maybe the 478 fan is louder than it should be. Thanks!

Souns Gud

Thanks for the advice guys, this is really helpful Thanks Drack

Im not assuming anything pyrion so chill the FUCK out. Thanks CH, I guess I'll have to rebuild it

cool beans!

Hey all, I've got a question for someone with a tech background, seeing as how I haven't been keeping up with the latest advances in the video card market. Im planning on selling some custom built gaming rigs I've built with 2 XFX GeeForce 8500 GT's in them, linked with SLI. They've got 512mb ram each, and the motherboard is pretty good and the system has 2gb of 800mhz ram. Would I be safe to put on my advertisement... something to the effect of "will play almost every game on the market at full settings" I mean, we're talking 32x antialiasing and full hdr and everything, so it should probly play even Crysis on decent settings right? http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/ Gotta print out the ads tonight and throw them into local shops tomorrow, so anything you could say to help me out would be great. Thanks guys

AUGH! Well cant find it on the reject list yet so I'll just wait to see if you're joking.

haha Yea I agree, oct 10th isnt horrendous, but it had been at least 3 months before that when i first submitted it and then had to do my own research to find out it ended up in the FT void and then emailed a judge about it. Well thanks man, I appreciate it.

I'm curious how the judging que works. Is it alphabetical? My FF8 mix, which "fell through the cracks" whatever that means in this age of emails clients which inform me "sent" or "not sent", has been in in the que for a couple months now, as an FT, and it is now one of the few left in the que, and 90 percent of the songs that have been judged before it were added to the que like a month after mine was added, as an FT mind you. Does adding FT at the end of it make it low priority? Cause I would think it would mean the opposite, but I'm no judge. Yes it sounds hostile and smarmy, but if someone can straighten this out for me It would make my life simpler. Thanks

I've got a couple nice refills hosted on my site. http://www.siamey.com/index.php?cat=21 Clubcharts.nl refill 1 and 2, plus schallkraft vol 1 are great for trance drums. I have the elusive Airbase Trance Refill 2003 hosted there aswell, which is filled with rex's of a bunch of trancey instruments (load them into nn19). There are a couple others too. Peace