atmuh Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 * 9 cp maps* 2 pl maps (Goldrush + badwater) * 1 ctf (2fort doesn't count) * 1 koth youre saying cp as if its all the same though 5 point cp is very different than attack/defend and as far as attack/defend goes dustbowl is very different than gravelpit and its much better than playing payload if anything put badwater a second time and no it doesnt randomize the mapcycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Needs more Payload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefairy Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 agreeing one hundred percent with this So wait a minute. A couple of pages ago, it was "If you want to play 4th sniper, that's cool." And now, it's "omfg heal me!! battle medic r bad men"? -- We haven't played Great Heights in a while. I nominate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Random Tiger Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I suggest if we add a payload, make it the Dustbowl one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 No. That's a terrible map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Waltz Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I support adding db_heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 No. That's a terrible map. well yeah naturally chokepoint map that is dustbowl turned into payload??? thats just another GOLD RUSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Random Tiger Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 No. That's a terrible map. I think pretty much all payload maps that aren't Badwater are terrible. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I think pretty much all payload maps that aren't Badwater are terrible.:/ finally someone that knows what theyre talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 why would you suggest db_heights if you understand how terrible it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 So wait a minute.A couple of pages ago, it was "If you want to play 4th sniper, that's cool." And now, it's "omfg heal me!! battle medic r bad men"? there is a difference between 'wanting to play sniper' and 'wanting to play sniper who only uses the jarate and kukri' essentially there is a big difference between losing because you do not have the right classes and losing because you have the right classes but people are fucking stupid and are trying to jarate people/battlemedic/only fire axe/boxing heavy/battlespy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Random Tiger Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 why would you suggest db_heights if you understand how terrible it is Because if we're going to have another payload, I'd rather it be that one than any of the others I've played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 if I had to choose another payload I'd say that hoodoo would be our best bet, despite how awful it is but honestly I'd really rather there just not be any other payload then badwater until valve/mapmakers realize how to make payload maps that aren't awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Random Tiger Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Oh yeah, I forgot about Hoodoo. Though frankly I can't remember what it's like past the first area, so I don't remember if I like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Oh yeah, I forgot about Hoodoo.Though frankly I can't remember what it's like past the first area, so I don't remember if I like it or not. hoodoo is far worse than any pl map youve played before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 the thing about hoodoo is that it's so bad that we can virtually guarantee an rtv to a map that isn't an affront to mapmaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 essentially there is a big difference between losing because you do not have the right classes and losing because you have the right classes but people are fucking stupid and are trying to jarate people/battlemedic/only fire axe/boxing heavy/battlespy I thought that we established earlier in the thread that a person's right to choose is what matters here. They aren't playing this way to make you angry. They're playing this way to have fun. The only difference is that your personal definition of 'casual fun' doesn't extend this far. It's the exact same concept. EDIT: Actually, I think limiting the potential number of times you'll get to play a class is FAR more reasonable than telling people exactly how to play any given class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefairy Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 there is a difference between 'wanting to play sniper' and 'wanting to play sniper who only uses the jarate and kukri'essentially there is a big difference between losing because you do not have the right classes and losing because you have the right classes but people are fucking stupid and are trying to jarate people/battlemedic/only fire axe/boxing heavy/battlespy That's an arbitrary distinction if ever I saw one. You want to permit people to play how they want, you do it all the way. Also, to the people rejecting db_heights out of hand: it's not a straight port. The author has made significant changes to the map layout to support the new gametype; Stage 3-1 in particular bears almost no resemblance to the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensai Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 there is a difference between 'wanting to play sniper' and 'wanting to play sniper who only uses the jarate and kukri'essentially there is a big difference between losing because you do not have the right classes and losing because you have the right classes but people are fucking stupid and are trying to jarate people/battlemedic/only fire axe/boxing heavy/battlespy Don't you dare insult my terrorist Sniper. Take it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Also, to the people rejecting db_heights out of hand: it's not a straight port. The author has made significant changes to the map layout to support the new gametype; Stage 3-1 in particular bears almost no resemblance to the original. I'll be the first to admit this map has made a lot of favorable changes to support a PL map. It may well have changed since some of you have played it last. So check it out. EDIT: Oh. I left my laptop power adapter in California. I don't have steam on this computer, so I won't be online for a week or two. (sorry garian and Clefairy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Actually, I think limiting the potential number of times you'll get to play a class is FAR more reasonable than telling people exactly how to play any given class. You want to permit people to play how they want, you do it all the way. hey yeah here is the distinction you guys: guys let's make it against the rules to do this me: when people do this it makes me mad me agreeing with atmuh that battlemedic is dumb is not really comparable to you guys trying to force class limits at all Also, to the people rejecting db_heights out of hand: it's not a straight port. The author has made significant changes to the map layout to support the new gametype; Stage 3-1 in particular bears almost no resemblance to the original. yeah we know and it's still pretty bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 hey yeah here is the distinctionyou guys: guys let's make it against the rules to do this me: when people do this it makes me mad yeah but here there is a difference between 'wanting to play sniper' and 'wanting to play sniper who only uses the jarate and kukri'essentially there is a big difference between losing because you do not have the right classes and losing because you have the right classes but people are fucking stupid and are trying to jarate people/battlemedic/only fire axe/boxing heavy/battlespy You make it seem as though your frustration is justified. And ours is not. When essentially our argument is that being a 4th sniper is 'fucking stupid'. Making no difference. I didn't call you out on battle medics being dumb. I was calling you out on trying to make this ridiculous distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You make it seem as though your frustration is justified. And ours is not. When essentially our argument is that being a 4th sniper is 'fucking stupid'. Making no difference. I didn't call you out on battle medics being dumb. I was calling you out on trying to make this ridiculous distinction. yeah and I'm saying that if you don't know the difference between bleck: what is wrong with you heal the heavy instead of using your saw and rambo: what is wrong with you why are you playing sniper obviously what we need here is a soldier who will go left while a demoman covers right so we can win with no resistance at all because winning is the only way I ever enjoy anything ever then rofl I think you're arguing against yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyss Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Remember the time that I was in the top three of my team during a full match on Nucleus once where both teams were about equally matched and all I used was the jarate and kukri? Yeah, playing alternative styles can never ever ever be effective. To make this post constructive: I am for the addition of db_heights, I miss the last stage of Dustbowl anyways. Haven't played there in forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trianine Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 yeah and I'm saying that if you don't know the difference between bleck: what is wrong with you heal the heavy instead of using your saw and rambo: what is wrong with you why are you playing sniper obviously what we need here is a soldier who will go left while a demoman covers right so we can win with no resistance at all because winning is the only way I ever enjoy anything ever then rofl I think you're arguing against yourself Right, Rambo already acknowledged your point. Your distinction here is moot, because in both cases the players are not acting in a way that is conducive to the team. Whether or not people play the wrong class the right way or play the right class the wrong way is indistinct. Both are equally bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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