anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I guess that's what it is... the best example I can think of is the effect Phil Collins uses on his vocals in "in the air tonight" (yeah yeah i know...) but it's been in a lot of other stuff. I'm sure you know what I mean. How is it done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I can't think of what you're talking about. An mp3 example would be very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 dang ok let me try to find one real quick sorry edit: ok here we go... something like this http://www.maphematics.org/noop/example.mp3 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004XSML/sr=8-2/qid=1151386986/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-9092628-5944123?ie=UTF8 or that, listen to "beachcoma" the effect used on the horns (sounds like a 'reverse' reverb or delay) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Do this. Take the clip you want effected. Cut it and make it a new file. Make sure you leave some nice blank space at the beginning of it. Once you have this new clip, reverse it (so the blank space is at the end) then apply a shitton of your reverb of choice on it. It should have a nice long tail. Mess around with some effects on it or whatever, then reverse it again (back to normal) and then place it back in your song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverCoat Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I can't think of what you're talking about. Yeah you do! Remember I asked you about this like last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phntm of the Opra Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Anyone who's played Diablo II should know the reverse reverb from Tyrael's voice, I bet they maxed the settings on him too. It's also heavily used on My Bloody Valentine's Loveless, both on guitars and voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hy Bound Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Do this.Take the clip you want effected. Cut it and make it a new file. Make sure you leave some nice blank space at the beginning of it. Once you have this new clip, reverse it (so the blank space is at the end) then apply a shitton of your reverb of choice on it. It should have a nice long tail. Mess around with some effects on it or whatever, then reverse it again (back to normal) and then place it back in your song. Wow, thats a great idea, ive never thought of that... You are my hero myf! Also, for mentioning Hybrid, Anonymous, you are F'ing awesome... yeah... i guess im easily impressed this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Do this.Take the clip you want effected. Cut it and make it a new file. Make sure you leave some nice blank space at the beginning of it. Once you have this new clip, reverse it (so the blank space is at the end) then apply a shitton of your reverb of choice on it. It should have a nice long tail. Mess around with some effects on it or whatever, then reverse it again (back to normal) and then place it back in your song. Wow, thats a great idea, ive never thought of that... You are my hero myf! Also, for mentioning Hybrid, Anonymous, you are F'ing awesome... yeah... i guess im easily impressed this morning... haha thanks. i love Hybrid. also, the other example is from a track by Daedelus... he rules pretty hard. i've heard the effect in other tracks but i can't think of them at the moment hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realpolitik Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Do this.Take the clip you want effected. Cut it and make it a new file. Make sure you leave some nice blank space at the beginning of it. Once you have this new clip, reverse it (so the blank space is at the end) then apply a shitton of your reverb of choice on it. It should have a nice long tail. Mess around with some effects on it or whatever, then reverse it again (back to normal) and then place it back in your song. nice one myf just simple gated reverb son. used in like, hardstyle/hard trance on the kickdrums and claps all the time, except it's reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 just simple gated reverb son. used in like, hardstyle/hard trance on the kickdrums and claps all the time, except it's reversed. yeah, i get that but im saying HOW is it reversed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realpolitik Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 after doing what myf described you take the section of reverb on the tail and reverse it so it sounds like this. yeah dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoozer Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 yeah, i get that but im saying HOW is it reversed? Well, you open the file in a hex editor, chop off the .wav file header, scroll to the end, and then write down the last of the series of nibbles. Then you open another hex editor and paste the .wav file header in there, and you write down the series -first-. Keep this up for a few years and you'll have reversed your waveform. No, of course not . You install a wave editor like Audacity : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ and then choose the menu option "reverse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Well, you open the file in a hex editor, chop off the .wav file header, scroll to the end, and then write down the last of the series of nibbles. Then you open another hex editor and paste the .wav file header in there, and you write down the series -first-.Keep this up for a few years and you'll have reversed your waveform. Man, trance must have been so hard back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 wait. i think some people might have misunderstood (or maybe my fault for not explaining too well) the reverb comes BEFORE the sample played. and it sounds reversed (or maybe it just 'fades' in). there is nothing after the sample. know what i mean? i think Phntm of the Opra's example was just the thing i'm thinking of. plus like, i know this can be done with some simple chopping and cutting up but there HAS to be an easier way, some effect or something because there's no way it would be used as much as it is if it were THAT tedious to do... that's what i'm asking if anyone knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoozer Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 No no no no no. The explanation was already given. We understand what you're trying to do. You really should try to do it as it was written. Wait, let me illustrate it. See? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Nice illustration. Simple and highly effective. Kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcos Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Actually drew it out and everything! Try using a delay instead of a reverb for a slightly different result; it's interesting with vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 dang!! nice illustration thanks for the help everyone. if anyone else has any ideas on how this effect can be acheived hook it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Honestly, I can't think of a simpler way to achieve this effect. From my limited knowledge of vsts and plugins, anything that would be able to achieve this effect would probably be a) CPU consuming and pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analoq Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wait, let me illustrate it. overachiever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion303 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Try using a delay instead of a reverb for a slightly different result; it's interesting with vocals. It sure is. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Sepultura's "Slaves of Pain". Reverse-delayed vocals are awesome. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phntm of the Opra Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Try using a delay instead of a reverb for a slightly different result; it's interesting with vocals. It sure is. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Sepultura's "Slaves of Pain". Reverse-delayed vocals are awesome. -steve Reverse delay is done differantly though. If you'd apply the same technic of reverse reverb with a delay you'd get an ascending delay. (wich is cool none the less). Anyone know how to do a reverse delay without haveing a reverse delay software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous hippopotamus Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Try using a delay instead of a reverb for a slightly different result; it's interesting with vocals. It sure is. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Sepultura's "Slaves of Pain". Reverse-delayed vocals are awesome. -steve Reverse delay is done differantly though. If you'd apply the same technic of reverse reverb with a delay you'd get an ascending delay. (wich is cool none the less). Anyone know how to do a reverse delay without haveing a reverse delay software? Reverse Delay Software??? ????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phntm of the Opra Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Try using a delay instead of a reverb for a slightly different result; it's interesting with vocals. It sure is. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Sepultura's "Slaves of Pain". Reverse-delayed vocals are awesome. -steve Reverse delay is done differantly though. If you'd apply the same technic of reverse reverb with a delay you'd get an ascending delay. (wich is cool none the less). Anyone know how to do a reverse delay without haveing a reverse delay software? Reverse Delay Software??? ????????? Don't sound so shocked: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/download.asp?ID=55 Sounds beautiful on piano: http://www.gvst.co.uk/GRevDly01.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion303 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Reverse delay is done differantly though. If you'd apply the same technic of reverse reverb with a delay you'd get an ascending delay. Which is what I was referring to. What were you referring to? -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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