zikon Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I have a question refering to the file quality of exported files from FL Studio. I know (or atleast i think I know) that when most professional CD's are made, the tracks are made to wav files, which i thought to be known as like a raw music file with no compression, there fore you get all the quality, thats why a wave file of a song off of a cd is around 60 to 70mb. But my question is.. Is it best to export songs i make from fl studio into wav files for the purpose of going on the final cd. because i have noticed some projects here, the tracks were turned into wav files. does it make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavous Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Ok, I about half understood that, so I'm going to go off of what I understood. Most CD burning programs take the mp3 and automatically convert it to wav, so it seems logical that if you take a wav file and put it in, it won't convert it right? Wrong. It takes the wav file, reconverts it to a wav file into a sound so horrible it makes a cat in a blender sound like a Beethoven Symphony. Some programs, however, let you burn the wav directly to a CD, so I would recommend finding one that does this. If not, Compress it to an mp3 with a ridiculously high bit rate and there will be next to no loss in quality. Does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 The only time I had a problem with the re-conversion of a WAV is when I accidentally import a 48khz wave instead of a 44khz wav. If you import a 44khz wav then it doesn't recovert anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splunkle Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 OK. If you are asking questions about this sort of stuff, you got to ask the right questions. Which you aren't. So I'll just throw knowledge at you and hope something sticks. Firstly, you may want to read this. Its just the wikipedia article on the wav format. To quote it: Though a WAV file can hold compressed audio, the most common WAV format contains uncompressed audio in the pulse-code modulation (PCM) format. PCM audio is the standard audio file format for CDs at 44,100 samples per second. and further on down: Audio CDs do not use WAV as their sound format, instead using Red Book audio. The commonality is that both audio CDs and WAV files have the audio data encoded in PCM. WAV is a data file format for computer use. If one were to transfer an audio CD bit stream to WAV files and record them onto a CD-R as a data disc (in ISO format), the CD could not be played in a player that was only designed to play audio CDs. So, assuming your WAV file contains 44.1KHz PCM audio, the CD encoding program shouldn't re-encode. Unless its made by some dodgy hack of a programmer or something. But you can't burn WAVs straight onto a CD. What the program will do is take the PCM data out of the WAV container, and wrap it in the Redbook Audio container. Now FL Studio can output in a great many different formats. But to keep it simple, if you are burning to CD, make sure you are exporting a WAV with 44.1KHz and a bitdepth of 16 bits. That way you don't have to do ANY re-encoding. Does that make sense? And Chavous: I have no idea what program you are using to burn CDs, but please stop using it. Unless you borked up your WAV file, your program should be able to import WAVs properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Snapple and Splunkle are right. Any decent CD burning program should be able to use WAVs fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavous Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 And Chavous: I have no idea what program you are using to burn CDs, but please stop using it. Unless you borked up your WAV file, your program should be able to import WAVs properly. Haha, point taken. I used Nero a while ago to burn WAVs to a CD, and it screwed it up royally. Since then I got NTI CD/DVD Burner, but I haven't tried to burn WAVs because of what happened the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zikon Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Now FL Studio can output in a great many different formats. But to keep it simple, if you are burning to CD, make sure you are exporting a WAV with 44.1KHz and a bitdepth of 16 bits. That way you don't have to do ANY re-encoding. I looked again at the exporting of wav's in fl studio, and it doesnt have anything about the KHz, so i am asuming that fl studio automatically exports its wav's as 44.1KHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splunkle Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Yes. All the Wavs fruity exports are 44.1KHz. I'm sorry, I fogot that Fruity doesn't have an option to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverCoat Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Er FruityLoops can go up to 192KHz... Options>Audio Options>Sample Rate You could export a 96 khz .mp3 if you really wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splunkle Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 ICIC, so Fruity exports to whatever setting you have in audio options then. Makes sense. But keep in mind this: Sample Rate - Lets you set the sample rate that will be used by the mixer. Have in mind that most generators and effects are optimized to run in the default sample rate of 44100Hz and you might experience problems while running in other sample rate, or some effects or generators might sounds differently. It is recommended that you use 44100Hz unless it is really necessary to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverCoat Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Yeah, and I can't believe they actually say that. It's been in the help file since 2000. I'm pretty sure you can change the frequency with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Increasing the sample rate in FL Studio should never have adverse effects on the sound quality, besides making it sound better. However! If you increase the sample rate beyond 44.1 KHz and intend to play the song file back live (ie: pushing the play button in FL), you'll likely be disappointed. Cranking up the sample rate in FL will cause exponential increases in CPU usage, especially beyond 44.8 KHz. Anything higher than that... can't suggest. On the other hand, if you're just upping the sample rate to render the song to an audio file, it shouldn't cause any problems. Might take considerably longer to render, but I can't say I've ever tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I don't know about FL, but in REAL sequencing software like Sonar or Cubase, the samplerate is based on your ASIO settings. I can run at 96khz with little CPU usage (since it's all in my audio interface). The point is that a CD will not accept anything that isn't 44khz 16bit. Burning a higher resolution wav to a CD will cause it to get warped and sound like shit pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I didn't know shit pie made sounds. ... Could you sample them for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 You can make your own sample, just eat two Wendy's tripple cheeseburgers, two orders of fries and a baked potato. The sound your ass will make when you're trying to squeeze all that out is what I refer to as a "Shit Pie". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Oh cool. Looks something like this, I'm guessing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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