MurdersLastCrow Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I just recently finished my first commercial videogame, and was ready to release it about a month ago- I just needed to add the soundtrack. One of my composers demanded outrageous compensation, so I couldn't use his work anymore, and my friend doing the other tracks said he was done, but he's been avoiding me for over three weeks and everyone's pretty sure he doesn't really have the songs. So I asked one friend to do a song or two who I know I can trust, but now I'm dying for more music. I'm willing to pay small commission fees, but it'd be nice if someone was up to donating a few tracks to the project. The game's webpage isn't entirely complete, but it still has a moderate amount of information on the game, and I can certainly tell you that it's a fun and amazing project, and well worth your while to submit some tracks to. http://murderslastcrow.co.nr is my temporary URL until the project's finished. Please take a look and see if you have any music that would fit a somewhat cartoony/comedic game. The game I was making before included very realistic models and an extremely complex battle system, but I had to quit and pick something else up due to time issues- but now I just need a soundtrack so I can release it! Please help. Feel free to PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I am interested and have experience doing this kind of work. Can we get some more details, though? What's the deadline? What's the budget/compensaton plan? How much music is needed, what format, and what style? More info on the game itself would be helpful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrypnyk Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I too am interested. But as zircon said, style, format, due dates, length, etc. etc. info is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 Here's a rundown, for you: 2d platformer with 3d graphics (think along the lines of Donkey Kong Country, just crisper). Collectible combos, specials, and parts to outfits (interchangeable heads, hair, and bodies) that you can customize on the main menu (one of the coolest things about it). A hilarious plot and script centered on a pizza that controls the metabolism of the Solar System. Full voice-acting cast. A level for each planet- Earth being your starting point. All but one of these stages has a fun boss to totally demolish. The enemies are somewhat generic but incredibly fun to obliterate and have cutely changed textures for each different level, adding variety to the gameplay experience. The gameplay is smooth and the physics engine is implemented extremely well. All the testers loved this game, but suggested one thing- the addition of a soundtrack (this was already planned, from the beginning, obviously). I'll be supplying some screenshots, soon. My previous composers worked without compensation, but I know you'd like to be paid for your trouble. If, by any chance, you have some older, unused tracks that you think could work, I'd love to collaborate. I'm in other dire situations, so money will be hard to give before production, and I can't give percentages of the game's profit for royalties. The deadline was last month, to be completely honest. It was done, all except for music, by then. I hope someone will be kind enough to help me out. If you let me pay you later, I'll certainly make that commitment, based on sales. I just need this to be finished in the next week or two. I know I'm asking for a lot, but if we get a lot of support from this community, I'm sure it can be a great success. Thank you so much in advance for your contributions! I'll get some screenshots uploaded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Thanks for the info. A few questions are still unanswered though.. What's the style of music? How many tracks are needed, and in what format? Also, you really need to be willing to commit to some form of compensation and sign to it... no one wants to be screwed out of their music. It's not as if a clause couldn't be set up saying that you have 30 to 60 days to deliver X payment based on sales, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share Posted May 2, 2007 Some more info, real quick. The music needs to be loopable. Here's the outline of just what music's needed. Main Menu Ambience Earth Theme Mercury Theme Venus Theme Mars Theme Jupiter Theme Saturn Theme Uranus Theme Neptune Theme Pluto Theme Boss Theme Boss Theme Remixed (for final boss) Customize Screen Music 13 tracks. I know that's a lot, but if we get a lot of people involved, even with older stuff, I'm sure it'll be just fine. The credits music's been covered by a professional band. The game could be completed in just one day, if you skipped all the conversations and didn't try your best to get all the extra items. It'd be tougher on you that way, though, since some of the combos are quite better than others. The costume parts are always incredibly fun to customize and play around with, and the sound effects are pricelessly humorous. I worked incredibly hard on this project, and I know it's not the longest game, but it's fun and a wonderful achievement that I'm not disappointed with. Style of music should be serious/active, yet still have a cartoony and silly undertone to it. The boss music should be more intense, but not incredibly serious, except for the remix for the final battle. I know no one likes to be screwed out of their music, but I can't do much more than digital in the way of contracts. I haven't composed too much in my life, and I know it would take me a while to do it, alone, so I'm definitely willing to pay. What do you guys think would be reasonable for each song's payment, since it's based on commission? Also, the songs don't have to be incredibly long- maybe even just 30 seconds or so- just so long as it loops smoothly, I think it will be more than passable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrypnyk Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Serious yet cartoony.... An example would be nice . Also do you want .mid or .mp3? or .wav? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Mp3 format, please. Screenshots- they don't explain much, but I just wanted to show some of the styles. I've made much better and more realistic models and I usually do- the shape and exaggeration of the models is to emphasize the simplistic and humorous side of the game. Not a lot of great screenshots, but showing the main character in different situations, and the customize menu (not showing you all the outfits in the game, sorry). http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF001.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF002.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF003.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF004.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF005.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF006.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF007.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/jackgamefaqs/DFSTUFF008.jpg There'll be a patch which I might add more backgrounds to, but this is what the finished project LOOKS like. I wish I could make a video instead of just showing you still frames- it takes a lot out of it. Anyway, I hope some people are willing to get into this. An example of the kind of music I mean by "serious with a silly undertone." http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/saturn/guess24%5B1%5D.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/Dedede.mid I hope those are kind of good examples, except I'm looking for something with much higher quality sounds than a midi. I want stereo quality that you'd get from an mp3, and feel free to put your own spin on it- techno, rock, orchestra- variety is good. Oh, and just for fun- http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5rTJkfBhbQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrypnyk Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/saturn/guess24%5B1%5D.mid That sounds familiar... >__> I'll see if I can whip up a little demo thing. See if you like it and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big giant circles Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 this has piqued my attention and interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Thanks for your input, Skrypnyk! I look forward to seeing what you come up with. ^w^ If anyone else is interested, please contact me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Wow- I've already received some pretty magnificent samples and loopables from a couple of the composers around here. It's definitely kind of them to help, but I'm still gonna' need a lot more music. If anyone has an older track they think would work, or an idea that this game's inspired them to try out, please contact me and I'll do my best to give you a reasonable deal for your music. All of the composers that comply and allow me to use their music will be entitled to some commissioned credit, as well as their chosen name or alias displayed in the credits under "Composers." Thanks again for your interest, and I hope this can become something the community is proud of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Quick question- is this really the most appropriate forum to be asking for this in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshish Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hey. The majority of my music I will not part with for a very low fee even with the correct synchronization licensing. However, I'm sure I can dig up several old didis that would suit the purpose for no charge. This will be in good faith that you will put my name on it. I don't mind doing this at all. Just give me a couple hours to dig and convert to mp3 and maybe even add a new one. Hell. I'll get back with you shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hey, that'd be sweet! Not all of the music has to be absolutely perfect, and I'm glad you're so willing to help out. If necessary, I'll create a patch with high-quality remixes in place of the original soundtrack. That is, if it's requested enough times. Thanks for your support, you guys. This is a great community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshish Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Call me crazy, but I am fixing to send you an email with a link to 11 tracks free of use to you. If you want to use it for anything else other than this project. Just let me know. Also, if you would like some of the good stuff for pay, let me know and we will work something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdersLastCrow Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 The game's out, you guys! Buy it now, if you want- http://murderslastcrow.co.nr. It's in the Games section. ^w^ I'm so happy to have worked with you guys. Thanks again! That's right, Dubious Fudge, a Murder's Last Crow production, was released only minutes ago! The soundtrack was created exclusively by composers from the ocremix forums, and I'm happy to present it, today. Just go to the official Murder's Last Crow website, http://murderslastcrow.co.nr (until our domain resolves). It can be found in the "Games" section. Look there for more information and screenshots. More exclusive data will be released at the website, among other things. A special feature of this game: Although it already has a ton of awesome special features, the game is going to have a patch available only to Murder's Last Crow buyers that includes more backgrounds, High Score tables, and other content that the community sees fit to be in the patch. Please, once you've enjoyed the game, email your suggestions so that the patch can be more than just a minor upgrade on the software. I'm looking forward to your feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshish Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Wow. Yay. Yipee-doo-da. Almost a week since you officially released the game. We agreed in private conversation that I would have a free download of your game for the music I let you use. I have not received what you promised. You have yet to even reply to any of my messages after you got what you wanted. You may think it to be an insignificant matter, but it is not. You should not treat people whom help you like this. I'm not mad. I just want everyone else here to know. I hope you understand that I have not lost anything. I have full copyright of all of the music I let you use. I will not make a big deal about it. However, you will not receive any help from me ever again. As for your game, you can still use the music. I will not buy your game. In fact, I wouldn't buy a game with those graphics, that storyline, and that kind of gameplay for 19.99 anyway. I could see spending maybe 4.99. But, even if you offered it to me at 4.99, I wouldn't buy it now. I am not giving you any money. Good day to you. Good luck in your future projects. I hope you don't try to screw over the wrong person in the future. Josh The game's out, you guys! Buy it now, if you want- http://murderslastcrow.co.nr. It's in the Games section. ^w^ I'm so happy to have worked with you guys. Thanks again!That's right, Dubious Fudge, a Murder's Last Crow production, was released only minutes ago! The soundtrack was created exclusively by composers from the ocremix forums, and I'm happy to present it, today. Just go to the official Murder's Last Crow website, http://murderslastcrow.co.nr (until our domain resolves). It can be found in the "Games" section. Look there for more information and screenshots. More exclusive data will be released at the website, among other things. A special feature of this game: Although it already has a ton of awesome special features, the game is going to have a patch available only to Murder's Last Crow buyers that includes more backgrounds, High Score tables, and other content that the community sees fit to be in the patch. Please, once you've enjoyed the game, email your suggestions so that the patch can be more than just a minor upgrade on the software. I'm looking forward to your feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrypnyk Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just want to say that I too have yet to hear anything from him since my last PM (which was more then a week ago). So you aren't along joshish, and unless this guy comes back from the dead, I wouldn't trust him in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemanusFlint Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Wow, this game looks terrible. Sorry to everyone who got screwed over for the soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziellink Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Wow, this game looks terrible. Sorry to everyone who got screwed over for the soundtrack. Show us what kind of games YOU have made, and THEN give comments like that, kthnxbai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratto Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Show us what kind of games YOU have made, and THEN give comments like that, kthnxbai. http://216.240.157.63/~murders/othersoft.html Fer realz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Show us what kind of games YOU have made, and THEN give comments like that, kthnxbai. You don't have to have made a game to say it looks bad. The "You couldn't do any better" argument is really weak. How many non-musicians here have negative opinions about certain songs on this site? Hell even one of the judges here isn't a remixer. The game doesn't look very good. I initially looked at it because I thought it might be nice to join up for the soundtrack, but after I saw the graphics and the concept of the game as a whole, I figured it wasn't worth my time. Looks like I was right. And this is supposed to be commercial? There are freeware games out there that look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemanusFlint Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Wait, since when are opinions illegal? I don't think the game looks very good (although the style does remind me of a certain emulation site). Do I really need to be a professional to have these feelings or share them with others, especially considering the circumstances? Chill out. kthnxbai. edit: semi-beaten, thank you for jumping to my defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fratto Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 kthnxbai. I'm going to reconsider and give him the benefit of the doubt. Kthnxbai gives the post a sarcastic feel. I've also noticed a complete lack of OCR props in his website. What a dick move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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