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Yeah, the pictures were already in left-to-right order of how they were mentioned in the article, Anorax, so it wasn't exactly rocket science to match them up. Anyway, I linked them up. I took those labels off. If we ever get new art, they can be added back with a fan art credit.
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OCR Talkback Live! (Saturdays, 9PM EDT!)
Liontamer replied to DarkeSword's topic in General Discussion
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Why'd they drop that cake? :'-( Sorry, Kris.
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Rough McGruff! OCR's NEW ACAPELLA GROUP! (April Fool's!)
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in General Discussion
We asked Max to give us a quizzical look and he kindly hooked us up! Much love to Smooth for pushing VGM fellow acapella legends Rough McGruff! -
Rough McGruff! OCR's NEW ACAPELLA GROUP! (April Fool's!)
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in General Discussion
I've got Tim Follin requests that need to be done first! -
It's time for the NEW hotness in video game music acapella, from OC ReMix! Introducing ROUGH MCGRUFF, BABY!! Skillz, baby!!! We're debuting the supergroup with 3 ZOMG HUGE TRACKS, BABY! Each better than the last, son! Mega Man 3 - "Snake Man" Acapella! WE OWN YOU, SMOOTH MCGROOVE! PREPARE FOR PWNAGE! :-PPPPPP ●http://youtu.be/aoC8W5ALnJI Yoshi's Island - "Aboveground (Dizzy)" Acapella! Yoshi's Island, son! We get you dizzy, son! Acapella like u've NEVER heard, son! ●http://youtu.be/mrwJD9twm-E Streets of Rage 3 - "Cycle I" Acapella! Takin' it to the STREETS OF RAGE, son! We punch you with music, son! ●http://youtu.be/h6TFk67Vm_U
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If you had been in the judges channel, you would have had a voice in this. We all decided as a unit if this was the best course. Plus the testing matched the votes of every previous submission, even on violations. Honestly, I was coming up on 10 years on the panel in July, and I like listening to the submissions, but Judganator truly makes me feel as if a great weight has been lifted off of my shoulders. I'm literally feeling a lot less stress right now, and this is a huge help for OCR as well as more seamless music integration and evalutation into Oculus Rift.
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Rexy's post wasn't off topic. And she wasn't telling you to "LEAVE, GO AWAY" to some other site, so she's not stirring up drama, only you are. In any case, this isn't an idea that's going to be done. So we're done here.
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Oh hey it's my birthday... and here's a present!
Liontamer replied to Omni-Psyence's topic in General Discussion
BIRFDAY! Hey hey! -
This is too liberal based on what I could make out, and I'll be voting NO. I'll come back with a thorough vote and we'll see if my opinion changes by finding more overt A-to-B source connections, not just using chord progressions, which aren't explicit enough connections. Also, Chimpa's NO is grandpa'ing, IMO. EDIT (7/3): I liked the track a lot. I saw the comments about the trumpet never letting up with the perpetual soloing, and I'm not inherently against pulling it back during some portions for dynamic contrast. However, I thought that criticism was getting way too subjective over a valid stylistic approach. I also didn't find any meaningful fault with any of the intonation issues as the overall performance was strong. On the performance level and on a conceptual level, I was perfectly cool with this all the way and would love a unique approach like this on OCR. Unfortunately, where I did feel I have to reject this on is not using the source tune enough within the arrangement. The track was 4:06-long, so I needed at least 123 seconds of overt source usage for the VGM to be dominant in the arrangement. The vibes-like stuff, where the source melody was explicitly used were the only areas that I counted as identifiable usage of the source: :48-1:12, 1:36-2:00, 2:24-3:12 = 96 seconds or 39% (yipes) You could argue that a portion like 1:12-1:19 was a super liberal/loose reference to 1:13-1:19 of source, but it's just not a strong enough resemblance. There were a lot of sections (including the opening) merely implying the progression of the source's chorus, e.g. :00-:48, 1:11-1:35, 2:00-2:24, 3:35-4:00. Then 3:12-3:35 implied the progression of the main melody. This really needed less implicit similarities and more explicit calls to the source tune. If you ever wanted to add something explicitly from the source into these sections, that could put it over the top as far as the VGM source material being used for a dominant portion of the song. I greatly enjoyed this one, but as is, it's currently outside of our standards due to the (too) limited source usage.
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You might want to calm down (and type properly). Just... dial it back. Try not to (needlessly) take offense to everyone. Short and sweet: thank you for the proposed idea. However, we're definitely never, ever going to do tiered or scored levels of judging, especially for submissions that aren't accepted. Our judging process isn't meant to use a scoring system. A submission either makes it to OCR or it doesn't. Rexy's not being negative. She's correctly saying that (because we'll never do this idea) you'd need to hit other sites for feedback with a ranking-style approach. Because of the unlimited number of ways an arrangement can be approached, a scoring system attempting to take into account all of the different things that can go right and wrong with an arrangement doesn't seem like it could be consistent enough to accomplish what you want. That said, it wouldn't involve scores, but the Feedback checklist the judges came up with is a really good resource that we may be able to include in a deeper way with an improved Workshop. All of those things are literally the problems the judges look for in submissions, so if you can avoid those problems, you'll be well on the way to getting a submission passed. Your thread actually spun off into a conversation about Workshop improvements djp wants community input about. Catch up there and chime in some thoughts.
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OverClocked ReMix Design ?'s and Issues
Liontamer replied to Liontamer's topic in Site Issues & Feedback
Thanks a lot for being so thorough here. Going above and beyond in laying it out definitely helps. Can't promise a quick fix, but djp is looking at getting this working consistently. EDIT (3/24): As of last night, this is now fixed. Thanks again for laying the issues out so well. -
I think there's enough butthurt to go around re: a YES/NO system to then go and add ratings or rankings, which tip heavily to nostalgia and genre bias than anything concrete. Part of the reason VGMix2's rating system eventually stopped effective was after the initial enthusiasm wore off to reviewing and it was left with maybe only 3 regulars that bothered reviewing and scoring consistently. The passion fades. I liked VGMix2, but that's been done before and the system was flawed on the reviews level in the long run. That basically seems like what you're asking for, tiers based on fan reviews has been done. Personally, I'm just not a fan of the inconsistencies of hive-mind scoring systems. I wrote this years ago, so I'll have to find the post. Music is subjective enough that I don't see the benefit of ratings by people who don't necessarily care about any particular standards.
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ReMixes already don't have to be "perfect and pro." While, I guess I can appreciate the perception of that, the standards are here to make being approved as an OC ReMix mean something. Adding second- and third-class quality tiers to stuff that isn't passed aren't labels that benefit the perception of that work for the artists, plus it adds a level of work I'm not interested in pursuing. TL;DR - There's only one tier: whether it's approved.
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Friday, April 11 to Sunday, April 13 Boston Convention & Exhibition Center, Boston, MA http://east.paxsite.com Live free or die! (Wait, that's New Hampshire...) OCR heads to New England to attend the 5th annual PAX East! VGM lovers, come hug us (and win stuff, but not for hugging us. But please hug us)! PANEL! OverClocked ReMix: Hugging & Cuddling Video Game Music Since 1999! Cuttlefish Theatre Sunday, April 13th, 12PM Panelists: DarkeSword Diodes DragonAvenger José the Bronx Rican Level 99 OA Vilecat We'll see you there! Who else is going?!
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You rock for putting this on my radar! DO NOT SKIP, PEOPLE!