The Derrit
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As an addendum, all caps is also not relevant to how angry you are; you have 9000+ posts, you should know better!
For shame.
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what happened to your last track? i liked that one... *tear*
Haven't listened yet, but I'll be sure to get you some feedback asap.
Edit: Will get more constructive later, but I can't really think of comments for this. Its solid, no doubt, not perfect, but I can't really think of what to say. A good start though, I enjoyed listening to it. More later that helps, seriously.
Edit 2: Back for some ACTUAL help this time! So for starters, love the tinkly sounding thing throughout the piece. That's great, keep it. I think the buildup at :52 could be more accentuated, its cool but it loses its meaning when it kinda sputters and doesn't do anything. Also, the sounds are similar to your last track, I don't know if that's how you want it, but it might be good to switch that up depending. I don't know the arrangement that well so I can't say about the source similarities, but its solid dnb for sure. Good stuff.
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Excuse me for being uninformed, but what are these numbers, and why are they present?
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Hey, back for a third time through; still a sweet song (given) but a small amount of comment from me.
Most importantly, the swell at 2:20 is great. But there is a problem; right after the orchestra swell ends, it goes back into the chiptune, which is fine, but the way it fades out and goes into it, it sounds just plain dinky. As if the buildup really came out into nothing spectacular. If i'm not mistaken, a buildup like that is usually meant to lead into something more, and even when its not, it shouldn't make the next part of the piece look boring by comparison. If what i'm saying doesn't make sense i'll try and explain better, but i just feel like the aftermath of 2:20 is very underwhelming, and it would do a lot if you could fix it.
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-For carefree
(I wish it was a llama, but its pretty damn close.)
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No it was not, Rambo. Think; there's a picture of fox in the act of reflecting it. Thus, one would conclude EVEN WITHOUT the text that it was possible. However, a double negative (its not like it can't be reflected) is a positive. You phail.
At English.
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'nuff said.
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Hey, generally on these forums it works better if you just post one. While it might be more convenient to put out all of them, one will sit better with most people here for some reason. Welcome to ocremix by the way! I'll try and get you some feedback soon.
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Joined OCR group! I'll have to start playing a lil more, friend name is thederrit like always.
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Hey, back again for the second listen. Let's break it down part by part:
Beginning: Pretty much the same, didn't have a problem with this to begin with so its not bad. The little fuzz hit starting at :42 could sound good with a quick reverb and a little more volume, or at least for the very beginning part. Not the rest of the song, though.
Middle: I honestly don't really like the wobbly bass. I think what would fit better is a solid, more powerful bassline that's gated. It doesn't have to do anything extra sweet with the notes going up and down, just a solid progression with a substantial prescence will add depth to the piece. I like your lil ping pong thing with the drums at 2:15 btw. I got a smile out of that the first time I heard it.
End: Kinda blends from the middle. There isn't really an ending as much as a fadeout, I don't have much comment on that myself but others might.
Two more things. One, the vocals you mentioned I didn't even notice the first time through. I had to look for them the next few times, so consider boosting that volume if you want it to be a significant part of the song. Also, I still think the drums have to be more varied. I don't know how you're running your drumloop but try rearranging the cuts and see what sounds you can get out of it. Be creative with it! I still like it a lot, still hope you keep putting in work. It is getting better for sure, keep up the work!
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I feel like there's not a whole lot of progression going on in this piece. Its just the strings and a little bit of that voice, and that's all. Its just too sparse to make an entire mix out of just those two things, and it also doesn't really go anywhere; I didn't really recognize the ff7 right off the bat, and there isn't any furthering of the piece... kinda repetitive. It can be made better certainly, but its a ways off.
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I'm actually quite pleased with this update, the DK song is sweet! It seems as if it'd be hard to fit into the game, but its whatever, I'm still a fan.
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Very nice! I also could hear something in the background (metronome maybe?) but I really like it, some of the progressions fuxed with my perceptions of how the song would traditionally be played but I like it that way. It could obviously use some length, but keep at it, it really is an excellent start, with not much of anything to complain about!
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Yeah well it might be awhile til they figure out how to actually make Duke Nukem not suck. That's like putting a soul in a ginger. Impossible!
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Haha yeah I know, its just grammatically difficult to say "Omni Trio is" as opposed to are. My mind won't let me :_(
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I agree w/ Radiowar for the most part. This is the type of song that could get completely TAKEN OVER by a good bass, it could completely drive the song. Also, the drums are quite repetitive. Even small changes in that make a difference, just improvise with them throughout the piece and make them do different things. The drum set you're using is fine, just change what they do more often than once every 20 measures or so.
Edit: Still listening and enjoying; I feel like something needs to add in at 2:14 every time I hear it though. Maybe this is the place to stick in the new bass part? It could make it less repetitive (i.e. not going back to an already used pattern) and give the piece a better dynamic.
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I hate to bust your bubble, but this has quite a bit of work to go. I can easily hear the source tune, which is good, but it seriously seems like the instrument choices were
a) picked randomly out of a hat (along with their respective volumes)
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are very overused and generally poor quality soundfonts.One of the things about this is its obvious lack of sound quality, but also, refer to the OCR submission standards. There isn't really any interpretation of the piece, its just the song redid with different instruments.
Now don't get me wrong, I in every way appreciate your effort, but try to get a better sense of mixing from the forums here. There are tons of people and threads to learn from, and in no time at all I'm sure you can make some great improvements.
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Could you please put these files in another form? possibly one that is easier to access, such as mp3 or midi? just downloading a rar file and doing all that junk will deter a lot of people from helping you out and reviewing your work.
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I honestly think this is very professionally done. Part of this is that I know Omni Trio pretty well and it sounds very much like their work, which is a plus in my book. But also, the influence of the midi is heard but not overwhelming; I think it is well personalized. It seems really good to me, I honestly don't have a whole lot of comment for you other than some of it seems to repeat itself; it could use more variation in parts. Also, small technical issue, the echo at the begninning of the song isn't really on pace with the rest of the tune, and was a bit jarring, but is probably not that hard to fix. Other than that, I'm a big fan! Good luck with this.
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I don't really know the source so I can't comment on the arrangement per se, but I can say that I like what the piano does, that's very neat. However, a lot of the sounds just sound kinda low quality. Try to find better soundfonts, it'll make the same piece sound so much better without any changes. Cool so far, might you have a link to the original for comparsion?
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Ha. Metatron got pooped on not once or twice, but three times. Damn.
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Excellent for the situation: Flyin' on 747 by Kid Loco. Its on the album DJ-Kicks: The Exclusives on iTunes if you're a buyer. Check it out, nice and downtempo.
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let me be the first to say i'm really surprised there wasn't at least one YES in there. this is pretty damn high quality to me, but anyhow...
Could you point out the things that you may have added/taken out, so the more subtle things don't go unnoticed? Listening now and can hear some changes, but I don't want to miss anything. I'll do my best to continue w/ the constructive criticism.
EDIT: I'm sure its still in progress (with the volumes like you said) but the section between 2:20 and 2:40 gets very sparse comparatively, it could use a little more size, if that makes sense; not volume, but a larger prescence of the instruments would be nice. Personally I don't like the new effect in that segment; it seems forced in at first listen. I also like the new synth going across the top of the piece for most of it, but at times I feel like its a bit too distorted to be enjoyed properly. And don't forget to let the original bassline do its thing later in the piece; it seems as if its written over by the new synth near the end, and it would be nice to get the bassline unadulterated later on, if only for a little while.
On the other hand, I really like the new orchestra swell that comes before 2:20, and PLEASE leave in the quote, love that quote. As much as I may have noted I still love this piece, its really really good! Just remember that more isn't always better, don't force more instruments that you don't need.
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Hey Theory, thanks for the PM.
So I really like the direction this goes in; I enjoy the fast paced movement of the piece. I'm a fan of breakbeat too so this fits right in with me. My qualms come mostly with sound quality in some areas and in humanization. At the beginning, the synth that isn't the square, don't really know what to call it, sounds pretty mechanized. I'd say the same for the organ at 1:35 and the lead that follows it. Don't get me wrong, I love what you did with these instruments, but at the same time they come off as very rigid, in some parts due to the homogenaity of the velocity; just like in real life, you can't hit an organ note exactly as hard as you did the last time consistently, so it sounds unrealistic.
Pluses are that the composition is great. I love the chorus humming in the back, love the drums, love the creativity in the leads. The problem is how it sounds inhuman during a lot of it. Personally I find this forgiveable, but the judges here I'm not so sure about. Anyhow, I'm being longwinded, really good job with this piece! Good luck with submission and I hope it passes!
Underrated Game Soundtracks...
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Paper Mario easily has the least appreciated soundtrack OCRwise. Someone please... do something about this! Seriously!
Underrated though, hmm... luigi's mansion i would say. Its actually got some great stuff in it with all the ambience and whatnot.