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Please post the source. Fly is nice and flowing and it has some variety. However, the second half is a repeat of the first half. Once you get down something a little more original (something that wasn't previously in the song), the next step is to figure out if it's too conservative.

"The Wily Malfunction" ?!?!??!?! That's raw power with synths! It's good, but how do you call that Jazz??? All right, never mind. I'll just make this whatever. I always fail at something if I confine myself to a single genre, so I'll just go where it takes me. I updated it, I somehow put the Serenade Of Water in there without messing up the beat.

Oh my bad, I didn't read his post. He means that it's basically the same song with mild differences. And it doesn't matter if Hip Hop is usually loops... Saying "Hip Hop is usually loops" isn't gonna get your song on the site. Time and effort is what gets your song on the site. Twenty minutes isn't really time and effort unless you had your eyes glued to the screen and took aspirin every five minutes because of the intense headaches of trying to make it sound musically flowing. (I'm not saying it doesn't!!!) But if you don't put some effort it'll just sound like any other rejected remix you find lying around. Also, if these were just previews and you wanted to have your friend rap on these, what was the point of submitting them to OCR?

Well I didn't say I was done lol I didn't mean to imply to you guys that the sax made it Jazz.... I didn't even pick all my instruments. But yeah I see what you're saying. For the drumbeat I took a very simple beat from something I love (Darkesword should very well know what I'm talkin about if you're reading this.) And i changed it around, adding some more stuff from a Jazz drumkit,

First One: There's no melody... it's just a bass and a drumline. It's kinda short and repetitive. Second one: Overall, it's really, really, really repetitive. It's not much of a song it's just two or three loops over and over again. Third One: Same. You got a little more creative in the second half, but the first half is really... how do I put this... stagnant. It's also really short and it ends abruptly, there was no effort put into a closing. (Well that last statement is based on my personal opinion) Fourth One: Wow this one intros quite nicely! I like this one. It's flowing and not too repetitive! However, it does repeat itself for an ending, and like I said before, it's too short. Try doing something original like a solo or something. Fifth One: This one is also nice. But it's kinda... how do I put this... stagnant. And it repeats itself. Also, the ending is abrupt. Again, too short. I do not know what sources these remixes come out of so I can't tell you if it's too conservative (means it's almost the same song with different instruments) or if it's too original. It's definitely one of the two as most of them repeat too much. This guy said he wanted to submit these, which is why my comments are a little over the top... To answer your many questions will take some time. Youtube makes your mp3"s sound different because they compress the file to fit their space needs. It would take up too much space if they put the full file. Therefore, the quality is lowered. You should host on a site where they don't compress the file. Like Geoffrey said, there are free ways to do this. Also, you need to understand what OCRemix is about. Taken from the front page; "This site is dedicated to the appreciation and promotion of video game music as an art form." Loops and repetitive trance/hip hop/electronica/WHATEVER is really not something they are looking for. http://www.darkesword.com/frames.html (Go to Read, then Essays, then Four Man Combo) That is an essay one of the ReMixers here wrote. It's a simple approach to arranging and composing for people like you and me (beginners). Don't take what he says literally, but try to take the ideas he writes down and build off of those. The song should be flowing, from one part to the next, not back and forth. Yes, technically if you did the slightest difference like a change of instruments it is a remix, but OCR looks for stuff like rearrangements. A different interpretation of the song in the game. (It's called OCRemix because Over Clocked Rearrangements wasn't really that catchy). For example... Darkesword took a song played on an old flute and he turned it into an Orchestration. He added power to the song with a drumbeat, he used transitions. Think of music like an ESSAY MADE OF SOUND. He added melodies and he changed chord progressions. He used French Horns, strings, and Choirs. But remixing is not just Orchestration. You can take a Heavy Metal Rock battle theme from a game and turn it into a relaxing jazz song (if you really wanted to, but you have to get creative and use your imagination, it's not just gonna happen by itself) And you don't have to go out of the genre, you could stay in the same one if that's easier. You have to make the song your own, you have to make it sound like no other person could make it sound. It's your interpretation. The rules also state that submissions should be over two minutes at least. And your sample's are not a problem as long as they are the sound YOU are looking for. If we think you suck shouldn't even matter to you. It's your music, you have your own way with it, it's your style. It's simply a matter of taste.

If you told me why this doesn't sound like Jazz, I would understand your post. But I came to OCR so I could hear what people had to say about the song.

Attempting a remix once more. This time with a little more sense and experience. http://neblixsaber.googlepages.com/RainDancingAtTheSpiritTemple.mp3

Okay, but I actually don't know what specific parts you are talking about... It's better if you give me a place in time (ex. 1:35?) Other than that I like it, it's probably the best song I ever wrote (It's the only song I ever wrote.... so yeah)

Can you be a little more specific about which harmonies, please? I actually like the harmonies... The instruments are singing in this song. I especially like (unrelated) my harp, I used an idea from DS's Ancient Hero remix to make my harp have a plucking sound. And I see what you're saying about production... Maybe softer songs tend to have better quality. (I once wrote a Serenade of Water remix and it got rejected... but that was one or two years ago. BUT, that was because of the arrangement. My sounds were really nice and relaxing in that one.) Maybe my talent lies more in the relaxing side of music.

http://neblixsaber.googlepages.com/peacefulspring.mp3 This is a song I just wrote half an hour ago...

Yeah how much time did this all take you?!

Please provide a link to the mix, I actually never listened to it because I was trying to help you with your thread title problem.

Ya know to edit the thread title just edit the first post and change the title...

"Please do not create Multiple Threads for a single WIP." Darkesword just stickied that up yesterday. And what I said said before: It's kind of boring. your sounds are real nice but it's kinda "bleh" Everything's kinda the same. Try changing up what's happening (like high energy parts and low energy parts and make em feel different, they're all medium energy parts that feel the same)

It's kinda boring and the same throughout the same... but your sounds are nice.

Thanks, I'll work on it ASAP. Also, don't forget Boss Month. Darkesword just filled me in on what it is. XD

Don't worry about it. XD UPDATE: I made the drums a little less annoying. http://neblixsaber.googlepages.com/halfwaytogo.mp3 It's still just a bunch of kicks and hi hats so if you want to hear it make sure you have a subwoofer (the kicks are on a low pass filter for a little more electronic feel)

This sounds a little cleaner and I see you added stuff... It's coming along good, man!!!

NIIIIIIICE! I don't like this remix... I LOVE IT!!!

I just said it USED to be rock... now it's just techno because I replaced the guitars with synths.

Yeah, I noticed it's got nothing to do with the synths, it's actually the vocals because I have them on high volumes. I should cut those back and you tell me if the problem is still there. I suppose I could cut out two measures of the ending, I agree. Also, it is indeed a fake guitar. If I took that out, this wouldn't really be rock anymore (BTW I was using electric guitar sounds before I replaced them with synths)... I guess I'm fine with techno, but it's kind of an overdone genre, and the bar for techno remixes are really high because there are already so many. I tried replacing it, but I need to find a good synth. If I was gonna add a solo, it'd have to be somewhere in the middle because the ending is supposed to be the melody and the counter melody "fighting" each other. EDIT: I replaced the drums, but they are a little off. I gave em a little TOO much wetness. I'll fix the minor errors at another time (maybe tomorrow)

Yes, I am willing to give this lost cause another shot. The reason I'm starting a new thread is because personal bias against very wrong things I said was slurring the amount of good advice I was getting. Thank you for giving me good advice, and if you could say it again here that would be very much appreciated. I'm willing to work with YOU to help me make my remix musically good enough for OCR material. (Jeez, I sound like an insurance agent) I have a good reason for starting a new thread so I shouldn't get in trouble for it. My favorite part is 2:27, so if anything in THERE could be improved I would VERY much like to hear it because that is in my opinion the best part of the mix. The source track is titled Crash III in the Megaman Zero 3 soundtrack. http://neblixsaber.googlepages.com/17CrashIII.mp3 Here's my remix: http://neblixsaber.googlepages.com/HalfwaytoGo.mp3

Forget it, Gario. You don't understand what I'm trying to say here so just let it go. :/ What I mean to say is that dissonance is NOT used well here. It sounds unpleasant here as most accidental dissonance does. That's my main point: THIS PARTICULAR REMIX does not sound good with this so called "incredible dissonance".

:/ No, and no. The delay makes a bunch of different notes sound at the same time. If I had note A on a strong delay, note B on a strong delay and note C on a strong delay, And the melody was ABCBABCBABCBABCBA It would just be A, B, and C all on every sixteenth step. They all go in the same spot, so instead of hearing and echoed melody ABCBABCBABCBABCBA you hear (ABC)(ABC)(ABC)(ABC) instead of an arpeggio it's just the three notes played at the same time (like your hand going up and down on a chord instead of playing each individual note) I'll ask DS if dissonance can be used properly in an OCRemix. He'll give me a good explanation why it can/ can't be used. Dissonance means "disagreeing sounds" so I don't really understand why you like it. It makes the remix bumpy and unpleasant to listen to. It doesn't matter if it's used "properly" if it sounds unpleasant then nobody's gonna like the mix because it's unpleasant. Tomorrow.

It's pretty good, but before fixing anything else, MAKE SURE YOU FIX THE SOUND like everyone else here said. It's pretty good, but the sound is pretty much as the others said clipping and nothing stands out. It sounds bad in my new speakers, I'd DEFINITELY work on EQ and sound quality, as said before. Also, it's TOO close to the source, and I'm surprised no one said this: It's way too short. If you want this on OCR, you have to make it at least 2 minutes, try adding original melodies or some low energy parts. EDIT: BLEH! MY BAD. Sorry, Nubioso. It's just kinda "bleh" at the moment, if you know what I mean... I don't mean to take your remix and call it gutter trash, but it's kinda boring.