Garpocalypse
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But what do you EQ in the drums to make it sound metal?
No one likes answers like these but there is so much diversity that it's only possible to give a general direction. Many drummers, like guitarists, spend lots of time and money getting a sound that is unique to them and depending on the sub genre you can go from a piercing clickier sound to a darker heavily muffled one (like someone put a bunch of pillows inside the kick).
As with most metal processing the best starting point would be to drop the mids and start playing with the lows and upper mids. For a kick try layering a deeper muffled kick with a lighter one. EQ seperately or together, whatever sounds good to you. ...and make sure to play around with PARALLEL COMPRESSION!!!! (or NY compression) You will get a fantastic metal sound that way! but that comes after you figure everything else out to suit you.
Parallel Compression the recording revolution way.Post WIP when able!
Just please for the love of GOD don't distill the kick down to just a plastic click. I can't freaking stand that and it's way to common!
EDIT: that's what i get for typing too slow, just go with what snappleman says!
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I don't know too much about NI's Studio Drummer but i have seen some people turn just about any kit into a functional metal kit through very creative use of EQ and layering. Put time into creating your own preset. It will take awhile but in the end you'll have a much more personal connection to it and you'll learn a ton about the various drum sound subtleties while you do it.
Though if you have the extra cash I swear by Steven Slate Drums. By far the greatest of all the drum kits i've heard for metal (and its various sub genres)
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Crazy good round. I'm thrilled you guys liked my mix enough for second place.
I tried to give everyone's mix 3-5 playthroughs before commenting but if you need me to elaborate on anything, or just call me a jerk for writing off your hard work, then feel free to send me a PM.
Congrats to Sir Nuts!
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Happy birthday dude!
Suzumebachi is a guy? Oh man have I been making a jackass of myself...
And just to let you know that depending on the kanji used to spell your name Suzumebachi could mean the following:
1. Talkative Drumstick
2. Tree Sparrow Retribution
Though i'm thinking you picked an alternate spelling
Happy Birthday fellow OCR'er
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Submitted. I wish all PRC's would get this much attention.
Like the greylancer one....
Looks like a good round though good luck everyone!
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Sounds great, very clean.
My only dig is that the groove kind of autopilots for too long with no builds or releases and it's the same kick and sidechain throughout. Music is a constantly moving art and knowing how to create tension then resolve it is invaluable. Or is that valuable. Same difference isn't it? or is it?
Keep up the good work and it was cool meeting you at MAGfest.
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This would work well if you kept it going.
The biggest problem with it so far is that it kind of keeps going with no B section to contrast it to. 0:45 comes close but it's not nearly as developed as it should be. Clear out a huge chunk of space in your DAW and give yourself some room to completely reinterpret the source. It's much more obvious to the creator but without the source nearby it would be tough to tell which parts were written by you and which were from the source. Really, take it far out there. Really far, if it's too far then you can work your way back in.
Another thing I shouldn't even be talking about is the guitar tone. It's not jiving that well with the rest of the instruments which all sound great but the guitar sounds like it's apart from the mix and not playing with it. If I knew how to make it sound right I would gladly tell you but this is an area that i am still working on myself.
So to answer your question, keep it going to make it OCR worthy, which is always a great goal to have when working on any mix, just make sure to put care into its proper development. Come up with variations, A melodies B melodies and the like and you'll have a great mix in no time!
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Oh man, what is this...?
Dubstep? what-Trance?
Think i'm feeling something for this one afterall. RAGE!
(Some nice entries though)
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Congratulations!
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I'm interested too. I've played the game nonstop since it's US launch. Not kidding either I beat it over 14 times and i am currently in the middle of my 15th playthrough.
...and i would make a pretty good Cloud. Just throwing it out there.
If you are hiring a team for this i would be up for it.
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Has anyone read the crits that were posted on this guy's work?
Very positive, helpful and uplifting. (OCR norm in other words)
It's good to have faith in your mixes but not to the point where it causes you pain and you don't take freely given musical advice.
At one point in my life I had PHD's in music bitch and scream and throw music across the room claiming my interpretation of a work was incorrect and that I had to relearn it or give up.
Compared to that OCR is a haven.
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Happy Birthday!
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Thanks for the comments Roz! I'll get those fixes done then get this submitted.
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This is quite upsetting.
I'm going to have to stop listening to Willrock completely if i am going to get any confidence in my own stuff.
Seriously though great mix!
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Happy Birthday to a fellow OCR'er!
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If you're one of the people who can mix in headphones, dog bless. It causes extreme ear fatigue for me and I end up making bad decisions.
I started out this way too and I had no idea how quickly i fatigued until I went to speakers. Part of my earlier frusterations i now realize was me trying to fight through ear fatigue.
With headphones the most time I spend mixing with headphones is 30 minutes and even after a 15 minute break it still can suck to put them back on. Going with speakers you can work longer and take shorter breaks to recover.
Though it's really good to use both, the more references you have the better.
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What speakers do you use currently?
If you don't have something comparable to entry level mixing speakers (like M audio AV 40's) then you should upgrade those asap. Though if you up your budget by 50 bucks you can get some decent monitors that will last you.
As far as the DAW upgrade goes does your current setup give you the flexibility you want? I've never used either of those programs before so i can't give much advice there but going with something like Sonar Producer version will give you all the tools you need. Though that is 500 bucks.
If you only want a slightly better daw i'd say look for a decent set of speakers.
Good luck
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Sure, the epic-orchestral stuff is great, but it isn't anything special.
Listen to The Witcher OST. Though that is the one exception.
Everyone has some great points here though for me it's the connection between myself and a perfect art. Because there is so much to experience in a given game and unlike all other forms of art, the player is involved in shaping the outcome it makes the connection to the music that much stronger. You don't just watch it or listen to it, you are involved in every moment to follow a common yet still create a unique experience.
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When i was in college i somehow managed to beat Ninja Gaiden for Xbox. (non-Black) The game then sat in my collection for a few years and one day I popped it in for about 10 minutes then promptly turned it off, ran it down to the mall and traded the game in.
No way in hell was I going through that again.
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I felt this way for awhile before i became more vocal on the forums here. Then i realized I wasn't growing at all and now i get pretty excited when I have something new to share. Though i never share something that's not already a complete idea with a decent attempt at mixing.
If you are holding onto your work to see if you can do something better with it later then you are never going to get anywhere. I've had several people tell this to me and even though i keep wanting to go back and fix things months down the road it's far better to just move on. Set deadlines for yourself and keep the flow.
That being said how about a Diotrans mix flood!
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First of all, I'm not sure what you mean by death metal, Gar. This is clearly a dance/synthpop mix.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. In deathmetal compression to a solid rectangle is expected but for this mix there just isn't enough of a dynamic range. To me it sounds like many of the synths were running at their default volumes and nothing was balanced before exporting. Though I'm sure it was unintentional and more of a result of being overwhelmed by the various options while mixing.
However if the remixer knows how to pull it off, deathmetal esque compressing could work very well with this source.
I can't recommend this guy enough, check out Recording Revolution on youtube and go through all of this 5 min to a better mix. Good luck on the future versions!
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Oneup knows how to pick a source.
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In the process of getting it. Though I always feel so damn guilty when i stick 0.00 in the price field.
I'll make it up to you! ...but right now i'm dirt poor.
Sounds like some very sweet stuff on here.
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I've had a Midnight Resistance wip on my harddrive for ages. It's about time i finished it.
I prefer the Genesis OST which was arranged my Hitoshi Sakimoto but your take is truer to the arcade version.
(just for perspective)Digs are as follows:
I know it's a WIP but there are some rather severe balancing issues. Some voices that should be in the background are too close to the foreground and overpowering the leads. Try backing off the volume and adding a low pass filter to knock off some highs. The more information in the upper end of the spectrum the closer it will sound to the listener.
I'm trying to get more familiar with the various electronic styles but this seems overcompressed. The drums are flat and there are no dynamics throughout the remix. Not bad for deathmetal but if you back it off just a little to let the drums come through i think it would be awesome.
Here's a little mixing tip: Start with all of the faders at 0 then start nudging them up starting with the drums first then pads then leads. Turn up your speakers and mix very quiet. This will give you tons of room for adjustments later.
I like what you have and i will definitely be watching what you do with this remix!
Garritan Personal Orchestra
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Not to hijack the the thread but I saw a mentioning of Garritan World Instruments which I have been recently looking into.
I am really not a huge fan of garritan, at all. And unfortunately i'm not really good enough to have that mean anything
but does anyone know of the general quality of the more folkish instruments in the collection? (specifically Irish, Finnish, Germanic and Japanese) I'm sort of hung up on going with Garritan or just saving like mad for a year and getting all of the East West World VST collections.