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You can transfer all the Wii games to Wii U no problem. What you're thinking of is your Wii VC purchases carrying over to Wii U versions of the games you own. For example, if you own Super Metroid for Wii VC, that doesn't mean you get the Wii U version of Super Metroid for free.

Guys, the music ZIP has been updated with Mr. L's track. Seems like I missed it when I was doing the track compilation. Voting isn't affected, but make sure you all re-download round 3 to get all 9 tracks.

Putting music up tonight. Just wanna make a change to submissions rules. Nobody's in any trouble, but I'm going to have to ask you guys to not use MediaFire as a host for your files. Apparently the service has turned to complete crap, and has pop-up ads that try to get me to download EXE files and also features Applebee's commercials as CAPTCHAs. I recommend using Dropbox or SoundCloud to host your submissions. Thanks.

New Super Mario Bros U is a game that exists. It was a launch title. Also Wii U is a brand new console, it's not an update to the Wii. Nintendo is also obviously working on a new Zelda game for Wii U as well; Zelda games always take a long time to come out. 3DS has a great library too. I'm closing this thread because we've already got two threads devoted to Nintendo systems. You can post your opinions there.

Split Sonic Lost World discussion to its own thread. Remember, this is a thread to discuss the system in general, not specific games. If you want to talk about a game at length, it needs to have its own thread.

Holy fucking shit. The guy just said he wanted the game on a home console instead of a portable one. You people need to cut this shit out now. Talk about overreacting.

New matchups up. Music later.

You should get NintendoLand. It's a great party game.

Makoto (Street Fighter) Django (Boktai) Vector (Knuckles' Chaotix)

It's not delusional. It's economics. And it's not about companies "giving back" or having anything to do with feelings. When a product is expensive and there's no option to buy a cheaper, used copy, that product will not sell as much. Less people will buy, because they are not willing to pay the higher price. They will wait for a discount or price drop. That means publishers and retailers will be making less money than they used to. Publishers will respond to this by adjusting the MSRP of the product, and retailers will respond by having sales. When you can't sell a product because it's too expensive, you lower the price. That's one of the most basic rules of economics. Also I'm not sure what you mean by "they had every chance to go after used game sales in the past and choose [sic] to do nothing." What could they have done in the past to address used games that they aren't trying to do now? How would you, as a publisher, monetize second-hand sales of your products?

That bit about restricting access to paying viewers only is complete and utter bullshit.

I'm not saying they will. All I'm saying is that the market will respond to what people are willing to pay.

NovaReaper is in.

I've been informed that jefepatronjoshi is dropping out as he is unable to mix. Anyone up for joining the Blue Bombers?

32GB Wii U on sale at Tiger Direct.

The existence of the used games market is what keeps the prices of new games so high. When the used games market disappears, you will see retailers and publishers respond by lowering prices, because they have to match what people are willing to pay. Right now they can't match that because used game prices will always be able to undercut new game prices. Stores like Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, and Target often offer discounts and deals on new games because, for the most part, their business isn't based on a pre-owned library. Amazon and Best Buy have trade-in programs, sure, but neither of them match the scale of Gamestop's, nor do they base their entire business model on them. Have you ever seen a specialty store like Gamestop have sales on new games? No, of course not. They don't do it. The only sales they ever have is on their pre-owned library. But when that library disappears, they'll be forced to start offering discounts and pricing competitively, because that's the only way they'll be able to capture consumers. Look at the PC games market. For all intents and purposes, there is basically no used games market. Digital disto has basically eradicated that. And yet, are games prohibitively expensive? We're all familiar with the deep discounting that Steam does, and other digital retailers often follow suit. Even the new, "unused" PC games are relatively cheap, and it's usually only the multi-platform releases (i.e. the games that Gamestop can influence with publishers over) that are initially expensive. I realize it's hard to swallow, but the used games market isn't just bad for publishers and developers, it's bad for consumers too. It's only good for retailers; specifically, the one or two retailers that have their massive trade-in programs (like Gamestop).

What exactly do you mean by "beer money?" You need to be clear about what you're willing to pay.

ToN is unable to mix anything this week because of extenuating circumstances involving rodents. Would anyone like to fill in for him this week?

Mixes and voting are live for round 2.

Getting a couple of submissions in already. Guys make sure you read all of the submissions instructions, especially this bit right here: We're in round 2. I get a lot of PMs, I need to be able to keep everything straight.

Actually it's basically just buy two of them and you get the other one for free. And it's Kirby's Dream Course.

Yeah, that was actually pretty good.

No worries, it's all good.

Statements like this literally add nothing of value to the conversation.