Geoffrey Taucer Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Here's a cut version of the track "The Battle" from Gladiator: http://www.geoffreytaucer.com/randomstuff/Battle.mp3 Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watkinzez Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 One Media Ventures song sounding like another Media Ventures song? Naah. (Pirates switched composers at the eleventh hour, so much so that they didn't even have time to record all the cues with an orchestra) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummel Maske Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hm, maybe the composer found that to be a pretty nice theme to expand on after he had finished the Gladiator soundtrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZero Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 That is remarkably close. I know Hans Zimmer scored Gladiator and was involved in the production of the first Pirates soundtrack, and Klaus Badelt co-wrote many of the themes with Zimmer. I'm honestly surprised by this. Not having seen Gladiator, does that song reappear throughout the score, or is it a simple tune used once and forgotten? If it's the latter, then it is possible that Zimmer wanted to expand upon the existing theme, thus elevating it to its level of primacy in the Pirates trilogy. Edit: Skummel Maske, you beat me to my conclusion. I have to learn to type faster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceansAndrew Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 cool find. I do think the pirates version is superior and way more refined. I know Yuki Kajiura did a something really similar for completely songs of hers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?page=2&t=12200 Shadow Wolf's post... I remember making the same comment myself way back when; supposedly Zimmer's cool with this, etc. since he was involved. For the record, I vastly prefer the Gladiator OST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramaniscence Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Yea, this is a pretty old topic that was brought up a lot when Pirates 3 came out, at least. Similiarly a LOT of the themes on the Pirates 3 soundtrack are really similiar to Zimmer's work on Last Samurai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Odyssey Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 It probably just boils down to deadlines, and they need something up quick, so why not re-use materials from other scores? I heard the same thing with Harry Gregson-Williams; this clip was in Kingdom of Heaven, yet he used it right at the beginning of the track "The Battle" for the first Chronicles of Narnia. Except it was re-arranged or anything, it was just taken verbatim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazygecko Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hans Zimmer uses the same god damn staccato fanfares almost all the time. It's no wonder some of his scores sound virtually identical. His soundtracks are so oversaturated with that stuff, I grew awfully bored of him many years ago. It's the euro cheese trance of film music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hans Zimmer uses the same god damn staccato fanfares almost all the time. It's no wonder some of his scores sound virtually identical.His soundtracks are so oversaturated with that stuff, I grew awfully bored of him many years ago. It's the euro cheese trance of film music. Heh, this is exactly the reason I love his soundtracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theory of N Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Similiarly a LOT of the themes on the Pirates 3 soundtrack are really similiar to Zimmer's work on Last Samurai. ...did you say..."similiar"? EDIT: twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramaniscence Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 hey eff you. I was in a rush to get to lab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgfoo Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Speaking of that track "The Battle" from the Gladiator soundtrack, Zimmer was sued by the Holst Foundation for copyright infringement because parts of it are quite similar to "Mars, the Bringer of War" from Holst's suite "The Planets". I still think that both instances could be from film makers using temp scores and wanting something similar to the music they had in there. I think the POTC theme has a similar feel to it as the clip above, but I think it's far from a rip of it. And even so, Zimmer worked on both, I don't think anyone is going to get mad at you for ripping from yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audio fidelity Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 no one's mentioned this but yoko kanno's 11th track on the new Macross Frontier bears a pretty similar sound as 'Pirates' as well. she's notorious for this, for those who don't know. http://www.imeem.com/jaclex/music/6PLslIY-/yoko_kanno/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sole Signal Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Heh, this is exactly the reason I love his soundtracks. Agreed. His work with the Pirates soundtracks was just awesome. Bombastic orchestral with strong memorable melodies? I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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