Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I didn't create it, no... but you'll agree of the gift nature of this when you hear it. If you have some good closed ear headphones, they work best, but normal ones can work too. The Cetera Algorithm presents to you, Virtual Barbershop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaudan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Didn't this thing just make the rounds here last year? >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 I used the search feature and didn't find it.... my bad if so. Maybe some new people can enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Maybe some new people can enjoy it. i enjoyed it. super trippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkspast Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Ah.. thanks. I just got new headphones and wanted to listen to this but could not for the life of me find it.. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Random Tiger Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Wow. That is REALLY cool .___. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Didn't this thing just make the rounds on the internet like 4 years ago? *cough* *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 i enjoyed it. super trippy Have you have ever listened to the virtual barbershop.... ON WEED??!!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Boring... it's just slightly better stereo sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Holy crap, that's cool. I've listened to this 3 times already and can't get over how accurate it is. I really wish more audio was done this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Boring... it's just slightly better stereo sound. This is BETTER than surround sound as it's exactly how you hear things with your own ears. You can't tell things are behind you or above you with stereo, and there is no harshness with the panning in the headphones. Even with surround sound, you'd need an infinite number of speakers completely surrounding you in order to exactly recreate the way we hear sound. hdphx uses the same type of concept. You get your aural bearings (sense of where a sound is coming from) from your brain detecting the slight differences in time arrival of a sound wave to each ear. The Cetera algorithm puts the delay in use for things like hearing aids. Holy crap, that's cool. I've listened to this 3 times already and can't get over how accurate it is. I really wish more audio was done this way. I am very surprised there hasn't been music recorded this way and had the algorithm applied. Granted, a typical band is front of house, but it would still be an amazing experience especially for electronic and organic sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't get how this is different from having two mics spaced six inches apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKieser Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'm pretty sure this DOES use two mics spaced six inches apart. But two mics can only tell left and right, not left, right, up, and down. The algorithm can correct not only for left/right and forward/back, but also up/down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 There is a Propellerheads track from decksandrumsandrockandroll, I think called 360 degrees, which uses an effect like this at the beginning. Cool stuff! I actually felt a tingling sensation at the part with the razor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't get how this is different from having two mics spaced six inches apart They are about six inches apart, but when you just listen back to the recording with headphones without the algorithm, you still have the presence of the headphones. The algorithm basically gets rid of the presence of the "speakers" right next to your ear, which is why it is used for hearing aids. Cool stuff! I actually felt a tingling sensation at the part with the razor. That feeling is insane! It makes me put my hands on the headphones to try and protect my ears. I actually had a friend who had to stop at the razor part because it really got to him. He threw off my headphones and ran out of the room. He had a lot of paranormal things happen when he was younger... might've been cause by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sole Signal Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Thanks for the link; I had not heard this yet. That'll be the day when while making music, we'll be able to pan up and down as well and left and right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'm not convinced I want to hear a recording without the algorithm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Isn't there a horror game somewhere that made use of this effect? So that you, the player, can hear stuff behind you and whatnot? If not then there really should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 All I'm hearing is slightly fancier stereo. I didn't get any of this "amazing" up or down changes, or distance, or any of that. Yes, I used headphones. Yes, I had them plugged in, no, they are not damages (I tried it with two different pairs) and no, I don't have any hearing damage, so you can stop right there. I think this is all about the power of suggestion. You read that's it supposed to be awesome first, and you believe it. I didn't read any of the page's text first, and I didn't get anything out of it. Only afterwards did I understand what it was supposed to do. And it didn't. You can say how awesome it was all you want, but it doesn't really do anything. Techno-babble and self-induced hype, that's all it seems to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Have you have ever listened to the virtual barbershop.... ON WEED??!!!? ..maybe have you?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Biznut Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 All I'm hearing is slightly fancier stereo. I didn't get any of this "amazing" up or down changes, or distance, or any of that.Yes, I used headphones. Yes, I had them plugged in, no, they are not damages (I tried it with two different pairs) and no, I don't have any hearing damage, so you can stop right there. I think this is all about the power of suggestion. You read that's it supposed to be awesome first, and you believe it. I didn't read any of the page's text first, and I didn't get anything out of it. Only afterwards did I understand what it was supposed to do. And it didn't. You can say how awesome it was all you want, but it doesn't really do anything. Techno-babble and self-induced hype, that's all it seems to be. I had a listen to this haircut dealeo without any information before hand. Just "listen to this". So you can scratch out the power of suggestion in my case. Some people may be more inclined to say "this is sweet" if they have been told it is, the power of suggestion always operates to a different degree with different people. However, I was wowed by my trip to the "virtual barber" based purely on my experience there. Pretty neato! If you heard some slightly fancier stereo, then you did hear something different. That difference may leave a bigger impression on some people than others for any number of reasons. If something is hyped up, I know I will have a tendancy to dismiss it as no big deal before even experiencing it, in most circumstances anyway. It's part of my conditioned reaction to things that are hyped up. That may be a little of what is going on for some people. And hey, if you don't hear anything worth fussing over, then that's just how it is. Did I mention it was awesome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 All I'm hearing is slightly fancier stereo. I didn't get any of this "amazing" up or down changes, or distance, or any of that.Yes, I used headphones. Yes, I had them plugged in, no, they are not damages (I tried it with two different pairs) and no, I don't have any hearing damage, so you can stop right there. I think this is all about the power of suggestion. You read that's it supposed to be awesome first, and you believe it. I didn't read any of the page's text first, and I didn't get anything out of it. Only afterwards did I understand what it was supposed to do. And it didn't. You can say how awesome it was all you want, but it doesn't really do anything. Techno-babble and self-induced hype, that's all it seems to be. Geez, you seem so bitter Unfortunately, I guess all it will be is techno-babble and self-induced hype to you. I, and many others can personally vogue for the different way this sounds. There is a CLEAR distinction between stereo and what the algorithm provides. Like I said, it provides the brain with the necessary information to ignore the presence of the headphones. That is the biggest part. Clearly different from hearing two harsh "speakers" next to your ears. Just last night I had three different friends look around and behind them when they heard this. I didn't even explain what it was before I let them listen to it, to avoid the placebo effect. The reaction I have gotten from people is INSANE and could never happen with a typical stereo recording. ..maybehave you?!? ......... maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souliarc Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 If something is hyped up, I know I will have a tendancy to dismiss it as no big deal before even experiencing it, in most circumstances anyway. It's part of my conditioned reaction to things that are hyped up. That may be a little of what is going on there. I am the same way. It is very hard to ignore this tendency. Did I mention it was awesome? When the guitar plays and telephone rings it sounds like it is behind, up, and to the left. Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I still want a recording that was made with two mics spaced six inches apart without the algorithm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaudan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 All I'm hearing is slightly fancier stereo. I didn't get any of this "amazing" up or down changes, or distance, or any of that.other words You can say how awesome it was all you want, but it doesn't really do anything. Techno-babble and self-induced hype, that's all it seems to be. I have to admit that I was unable to distinguish any other directionality but left and right until the narrative basically told me exactly where the sound was coming from. To me having the razor cross from behind my head and over the top sounded exactly alike and I only noticed any difference once the guy explained what he was doing. The only reason I placed the phone behind me is because it wouldn't make sense for it to be ahead of me at a barbershop when there's usually a mirror-wall there. With a bit of imaginative willpower I was able to move every object from behind me to my front. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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