OceansAndrew Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 yeah, not really seeing a big deal with any of the nudity, the violence is a little bit worse, but it's a pretty brutal show overall. The mountain was really mad at his horse though, damn. Quote
Flare4War Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 Not that it justifies the sex and nudity, I understand that if it's offensive to people it's offensive; but again I think people should realize that the innuendo has actually been watered down from what takes place in the books. In just the first 2 episode if you compare them to the books: There is a brief sex scene between Eddard and Catelyn that is absent. The scene where Bran stumbles upon Jamie and Cersei is much more graphic. She is completely naked for one thing and he watches them shag a lot longer. The scene where Daenery's consummates her marriage with Drogo is way more tame than the books. She's 13 and she's crying. But as already mentioned previously in the thread, that kinda of shit just doesn't fly. Not even for HBO, so that was to be expected. I've seen comments on IMDB and some other places where people are mad because HBO is being unscrupulous by adding a bunch of dirty sex and nudity just for ratings. I guess my point is that, if they're trying to follow closely to the books, (which of course they are) they really aren't adding a bunch of smut to the story. If anything they're taking some out. Quote
Ab56 v2 aka Ash Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Can someone explain to me why it's bad to show lots of sex and violence in a show that's based on a book that features lots of sex and violence? Moreover, is there any good reason people are arguing more against the sex than the violence? This show is amazing. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 You make a good point, the show needs more violent sex I want to see lots of swords and blood involved Actually I want True Blood to come back on Quote
Native Jovian Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Moreover, is there any good reason people are arguing more against the sex than the violence? Because there's been a lot more sex than violence? Or at least, it's been a lot more graphic. The most recent episode featured a completely gratuitous lesbian sex scene (which wasn't in the books, so you can't blame it on the source material) that went on for about five minutes, while a guy getting a spear shoved through his torso merits a 2-second shot without much in the way of blood, and (white'd for spoilarz) Robert's wound, which is described as having his intestines falling out of it in the book, looks like it could be fixed up with a few stitches in the series. I think there's been at least one instance of full-frontal nudity in every episode so far, but the goriest thing they've shown so far was Tywin Lannister skinning a deer. Edited May 30, 2011 by Native Jovian Quote
tweex Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 I just downloaded all the epubs of the first 4 books. Would it be better for me to read the first one before I watch the series? Quote
Flare4War Posted May 30, 2011 Author Posted May 30, 2011 I just downloaded all the epubs of the first 4 books. Would it be better for me to read the first one before I watch the series? In my opinion yes. I think you will enjoy the suspense that is created in the book much more and you'll appreciate what HBO is actually trying to adapt a lot more if you read the book first. Quote
Native Jovian Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 Yeah, the book is definitely much easier to follow than the HBO series, but they're different enough that it's worth reading/watching both, I think. Plus you'll be able to get the story from the books a lot sooner than the series in any case. If you start now, you should finish in time for A Dance With Dragons coming out this summer! Quote
Ab56 v2 aka Ash Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 I made my post before the lesbian scene. Before, it seemed like they were toning down the sex that was actually in the book. Quote
Flare4War Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 So I was finally able to sit down and watch the last episode and yes, I agree that the lesbian scene was over the top. Until that it seemed like they were staying acceptable close to the book though as far as the sex was concerned. Quote
OceansAndrew Posted June 3, 2011 Posted June 3, 2011 im a little behind on the episodes, but I am so ready for some lesbian sex scenes. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted June 4, 2011 Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) im a little behind on the episodes, but I am so ready for some lesbian sex scenes. Also a little behind and catching up. I'm on episode 5. The old kid suckling the lady's teat made me audibly yell "EWWWW" The little dude is mah favorite character Don't spoil it for me but things are looking pretty grim for the little dude Edited June 4, 2011 by Brandon Strader Quote
Flare4War Posted June 4, 2011 Author Posted June 4, 2011 The little dude is mah favorite characterDon't spoil it for me but things are looking pretty grim for the little dude Tyrion is an awesome character to follow. In the books he comes across more intelligent than he does in the series but Peter Dinklage is doing a fantastic job. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted June 5, 2011 Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Tyrion is an awesome character to follow. In the books he comes across more intelligent than he does in the series but Peter Dinklage is doing a fantastic job. Haha yes! And I'm still catching up, half-way through episode 6. This show makes the bald man cry. edit; To address an earlier conversation, this show is actually a LOT more tame than other shows on the pay channels xD. Sex and violence is not as common in this show so far as it was in others. Edit2: NVM Just started episode 7, lol Edited June 5, 2011 by Brandon Strader Quote
Brandon Strader Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I didn't double post for a while because I thought someone'd be in here. What happened? Someone dropped a ball. As for the 9th episode... Whoo. Didn't see THAT coming. And what is there, 1 episode left? Gotta say I'm glad I chose to follow the little dude, glad he didn't die yet also. Quote
DarkeSword Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Having read the book years ago, it's so interesting to see the reactions everyone is having to what happened. It's one thing when your friend reads the book and is like "oh my god! such-and-such thing happened to so-and-so!" But it's another thing entirely when the internet collectively freaks out. XD Quote
Monobrow Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I got sad all over again. It was just like over 10 years ago Quote
Brandon Strader Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 As someone who has never read the books, I was surprised, and I'm somewhat bewildered as to what they're going to do next. I'm glad you guys can sit back and enjoy my bewilderment from your perch of knowledge. Quote
OceansAndrew Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Brandon, what happens next is pretty much a lot of sex and violence. It'll be great. Quote
Darangen Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I thought they would stretch the book out over more episodes, but they've been doing a great job so far. My girlfriend has never read the books, so when we watched episode 9 she was flabbergasted, it was great! Quote
Hawkwing Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) [spoilers]My girlfriend was so angry over Eddard's death. She kept proclaiming that main characters can't die. Oh is she in for a treat.[/spoilers] Edited July 18, 2011 by Hawkwing Quote
Flare4War Posted June 16, 2011 Author Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) I didn't double post for a while because I thought someone'd be in here. What happened? Someone dropped a ball. Yeah, sorry. My satellite dish is having some issues and I'm actually kinda behind. Episode 7 is the last I've seen. The bill is paid and all that, it's some other bullshit. Anyways, a friend of mine has them saved on his dish box and I'll be catching up. Edit: And, yeah... lets try to avoid spoilers if we can. Edited June 16, 2011 by Flare4War Quote
Flare4War Posted July 17, 2011 Author Posted July 17, 2011 A really terrible internet connection has prevented me from posting and keeping up on this thread. I have "A Dance With Dragons" in my possession and it is a big sucker. It's about damn time. Quote
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