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  1. 1. Do you think this competition is a good idea, enough to continue?

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I'm new at this, if this is a success, i will continue it. I would love for someone to tell me how i can add this to ThaSauce! So i can have flexibility in 2 platforms!

Spin The Wheel - A great way to flex out your remix skills and showcase your love and appreciation for Video Game Soundtracks!

What is Spin The Wheel? 

Spin The Wheel is hosted every 3 weeks and consists of selecting VGM music to remix! 

The way it works is really simple. We have a choice of 6 consoles. NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, PS1, Arcade and PC. All these games are put into a tombola, and then a console is selected a random, by the process of spinning the wheel. I utilise an appropriate system, that works, so don't think I am deliberately selecting a game. 

Once a game system is selected, we then approach Ten Games of that system, which are then also put into the tombola and chosen at random. In the end we will have a working game from a working console.

Once that is done, you pick a track from the game, and get remixing! This process takes up to 2 weeks, the time spent working on your mix. After the 2 weeks are up, we then use all the entries we have, and begin voting. Voting takes a week, and works in the format of First, Second and Third. Once you have voted, you cannot vote again. The winner with the most votes, wins the competition and can select 6 games, one for each console. 6 games already in the tombola, will be replaced with the chosen games.  For a full extensive manual to how this is run, look below! The first official game will be display here! The rules are at the bottom. 

Current games in the wheel are in this document. It will change as we progress in each competition:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xxoGX4bS2_q_URpN35K8b9oGn1zogHiRxLarik38IZU/edit?usp=sharing

Lets SPIN THE WHEEL!

It landed on SEGA GENESIS!

The random game that was chosen is.......

X-Men 2!

Information about the Game and Soundtrack: 

X-Men 2 was a game developed by Headgames Inc and at the time was fairly successful. It involves the X-Men trying to stop a virus out-break. The game was met with somewhat decent reviews, but wasn't considered a fantastic game. The music was scored by Kurt Harland who was an active member and founder of the electro band, Information Society. The music follows in the vain of Electro, with some techno elements, ambient influences and industrial textures. Some contributions from Mark Miller, (The infamous GEMS creator) are also present in the score, who also helped convert the music to the system. What's interesting to note is how it used a mailbox system. You essentially had a different character, and for each character a different melody would play, but of course still keeping the harmony. So it was different music, almost everytime. 

Compo starts Today at 8th December 2018! and finishes at 22nd December 2018!

Voting begins on the 22nd December 2018 and finishes on the 29th December 2018. I will inform you who has won on the thread!

Please submit a valid mp3 file, in decent quality that is less than 20mb. It must be easy to access and download. I recommend using SoundCloud as a choice of service! Add a link here on this thread, if you can.

You have 2 weeks to mix! Let's see what you have come up with! 

Selecting the Source

The 6 video game systems are as follows:

  • NES
  • SNES
  • Sega Genesis
  • PS1
  • Arcade
  • PC

I can only use these 6 video systems, otherwise the process becomes complicated. It's much easier dealing with 6 consoles, than 10 or 20. 

All you need to do, is to sit back and relax while the tombola selects the system and the game. This process is completely random, even I don't know what it will pick. Don't judge the system, I worked hard to make sure it's fair.

Each system I've picked combines popular systems from the 80's, 90's. and 2000's onwards. I didn't focus much on the modern systems because the classic systems deserve the love, often going ignored in some areas.

Picking the Game

When we begin with the first round, there is already 10 games in each console. After a person has won, they can replace 1 game from each console with their own, (6 in total). This allows for completely new games, that could either be classics, or more obscure ones. I do recommend you go for the more obscure ones, I don't want a ton of say...Final Fantasy or Mario taking up most of the system, they already have a huge quantity or remixes.  The game will also be picked at random, and could be anything, get your hopes up, it might even be one you like. 

Selecting the Track

When the game is picked (One out of Ten in total) you then must select a track from the game. This track must be longer than 30 seconds (At least), and must not be any form of Jingle, or short theme. I recommend selecting the stage themes and the boss themes, as they tend to go for longer than 1 minute. Once the track has been selected, you may begin remixing. When submitting state which track you have picked clearly. If it's Sonic for example. Put it as Green Hill Zone, or in the case of Sonic 3, put it as Marble Garden Act 1 or Act 2, depending on your choice. Anything additional you want to add, just type below. Make sure the track you select is different than the other entries. It's not that you can't remix it, it's just I don't want 10 entries of the same source, because then it might as well be a PRC competition. However though, if there are only 8 tracks in the soundtrack of the video game, but 10 of you, then I can make an exception to have multiple choices, yet again, that doesn't mean I should expect 10 of the same source. I'm ok with 2 people doing Green Hill, 2 people doing Scrap Brain and the rest is various, I’m not that strict, but like I said I don't want 10 people doing Green Hill and the rest of the soundtrack to be ignored. Use this to try remixing sources that often don't get remixed! 

Uploading your Track

The track you submit must come from a reliable source, easy to access and less than 20mb, in a MP3 format. Make sure it's in good quality, so the judging process is easier. If you are having problems submitting, then message me the file. An easy streaming service, like SoundCloud is ideal. Once you have submitted, message me with the link to access it.  Only one submission per person please, give everyone a chance. 

Once submitted you simply wait until the remixing stage is over. 

Voting

When the uploading stage is done, we move onto voting. The voting is a simple process, just simply decide who should win, who should get 2nd place and who should get 3rd. When writing down your votes, be sure to organise it by name. 

It doesn't matter how you vote, but do give a clear indication to who wins, and who is runner up etc. We want it to be clearly identified. Be sure to be honest with your votes, don't think that they will turn on you for your honest opinion, but saying that, do try and not be a d**k. This is a competition, so we aren't trying to produce something from a high-end studio. Just picking tracks we think are the best. 

When Voting Follow These Guidelines:

  • Make sure you vote for the person you think is the best. Do not vote for your friends, because they are your friends. Please be fair with your choosing.
  • Be nice. Actually give legit reasons to why they should win, and definitely  watch your language. This isn't the kind of place for bullying or swearing. 
  • Do not vote for yourself. It's not fair for you to forge the results so you can always gain a win. How sad would that be huh?
  •  Make sure you pick a first, second place and a third-place winner, having it in the order of the winner then the rest. You can comment on all tracks, of course. 
  • If there is a tie for the winner, then you will both submit 6 games from each system, making sure it's all different games that aren't already in the system, we haven't used before, and don't conflict with any other choices a person will probably have. 
  • Try and have fun. Just because you didn't win doesn't mean you should be upset. Remember it's just a fun way to showcase your music.

The Winner!

Winners are determined by the most number of votes. If there is a tie see Bullet Point Number 5 in the above title. Once a winner has been announced, they then must decide 6 games from the list of systems above. It must be 1 game for each system, not 6 games for one system. Each game must contain a minimum of 5+ tracks, excluding very short themes. Majority of the tracks must be over 30 seconds long, so they can be remixed easily. The list of video game consoles is above.

When you have decided on 6 games for each system, we will replace a current game on the list with yours. It's ideal you go for games that don't have a lot of remixes. Final Fantasy or Chrono Trigger will probably be loaded with mixes, and as such I recommend you go for something with a little less. The choice of game is really up to you, but I will check to see if it's eligible. When I have reviewed your games, and they are accepted I will start the tombola again and pick a game. Now this is randomly generated so the chances are of getting your game won't be high, but it is very likely your game is selected, so don't think there's a problem, because I can assure there shouldn't be one. If there is a problem, drop me a message and I can try to resolve things.

After the sources have been selected and the next game is chosen for the round. Simply repeat the process. When you have won the round, and the next round is currently in play, you can only submit a bonus mix. So, you can still remix, but you can't vote for the bonus mix. The winner of whatever round was last on, gets a vote that counts twice in the next round. 

We aim for this to be a fun a fair way to remix video game music! 

If there is problem with anything, drop me a message or reply to this thread. 

To Simplify:

1. We have 6 game systems. NES, SNES Sega Genesis, PS1, Arcade and PC

2. A system is chosen at random through our tombola. The same process is repeated for the games, in the list. There are 10 games, per system.

3.  Once the game is selected, choose your track. Must be longer than 30 seconds and must be from the game. Try and be different, don’t go for the same track as everyone else. Nice to have 10 different tracks, than 10, that are all the same. Please state the choice of track in the description when you upload.

4. After you have selected the track, begin remixing. This takes 2 weeks.

5. Once remixing has been done, it’s voting time. Only one vote per person, don’t vote for yourself, and make sure you give honest answers. No voting because he/she is your friend. Label it as first and second and third, but you can comment on all tracks.

6. When voting is over, a winner is announced. Winners get to input 6 games, one for each system into the tombola. 6 games that already exist will be replaced. If there is a tie, both of you will put in 6 games, be sure we haven’t covered these games before, they don’t have as much remixes, and they don’t conflict with and of the other people who have submitted. Also make sure that the games have more than 5 tracks at least over 30 seconds each.

7. When that’s done, the next compo will start! 

Do Note: 

  • This is a 3-week process. 2 weeks to remix, 1 week to vote. I cannot extend deadlines, unless we aren't getting any participants. This is only in the extreme places. 
  • I only pick the game, through a random process. Don't think I’m fixing the results. 
  • Participate as a fun way to remix. Please don't take this seriously. 
  • Try and follow the rules, it will make this so much easier.
  • Be respectful of other people, but that's really a standard.
  • Have fun. It looks daunting, but if you submit the right way, we can get along just fine.

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Today's video game to remix is here, it's also on the top of the first page as well.

Current games in the wheel:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xxoGX4bS2_q_URpN35K8b9oGn1zogHiRxLarik38IZU/edit?usp=sharing

The Wheel in Action!

https://imgur.com/a/HJGDf7H

Lets SPIN THE WHEEL!

It landed on SEGA GENESIS!

The random game that was chosen is.......

X-Men 2!

Download available MIDI files here!

https://www.khinsider.com/midi/genesis/x-men-2-clone-wars

Listen to the Soundtrack:

Information about the Game and Soundtrack: 

X-Men 2 was a game developed by Headgames Inc and at the time was fairly successful. It involves the X-Men trying to stop a virus out-break. The game was met with somewhat decent reviews, but wasn't considered a fantastic game. The music was scored by Kurt Harland who was an active member and founder of the electro band, Information Society. The music follows in the vain of Electro, with some techno elements, ambient influences and industrial textures. Some contributions from Mark Miller, (The infamous GEMS creator) are also present in the score, who also helped convert the music to the system. What's interesting to note is how it used a mailbox system. You essentially had a different character, and for each character a different melody would play, but of course still keeping the harmony. So it was different music, almost everytime. 

Compo starts Today at 8th December 2018! and finishes at 22nd December 2018!

Voting begins on the 22nd December 2018 and finishes on the 29th December 2018. I will inform you who has won on the thread!

Please submit a valid mp3 file, in decent quality that is less than 20mb. It must be easy to access and download. I recommend using SoundCloud as a choice of service! Add a link here on this thread, if you can.

You have 2 weeks to mix! Let's see what you have come up with! 

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Green text is hard for me to read.  Doesn't help with the piercing white BG lol.

X-Men 2 huh.  Might be able to get around to it.  I make no promises though.  Good luck with the compo!

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3 minutes ago, HoboKa said:

Green text is hard for me to read.  Doesn't help with the piercing white BG lol.

X-Men 2 huh.  Might be able to get around to it.  I make no promises though.  Good luck with the compo!

Thanks for supporting! It's nice that i have a group of patrons who have as much love for VGM as i do. As for the green background, well i can get that changed, depending on if i'm lazy or not lol. Just kidding. 

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3 minutes ago, TheVideoGamer said:

Thanks for supporting! It's nice that i have a group of patrons who have as much love for VGM as i do. As for the green background, well i can get that changed, depending on if i'm lazy or not lol. Just kidding. 

Also i'd love this to be on ThaSauce, but sadly i don't know how. ThaSauce is ridiculously easy in adding entries and voting, and with that interface i can have the best of both worlds on OCR, and ThaSauce. Worst comes to worst, theres nothing wrong with this platform and i can still use it.

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This could be fun. It might be a really fun way to participate if competitors/voters (or just anyone) could influence what games get added to the random draw. Right now it seems that the games that might have a chance to get into the competition are visible only to you.

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1 hour ago, evktalo said:

This could be fun. It might be a really fun way to participate if competitors/voters (or just anyone) could influence what games get added to the random draw. Right now it seems that the games that might have a chance to get into the competition are visible only to you.

Oh no i do have the list of games. I plan on using a document for that and uploading. Which you will see very shortly. As for the games i am also working on adding screenshots of "The Wheel" but i haven't figured how to add images from the computer to an OCR thread.... 

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This is the list of current games so far. All games are inputted by me for now, but as time goes on, it will be full of entries that i didn't select. This is good, as every-game is then different.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xxoGX4bS2_q_URpN35K8b9oGn1zogHiRxLarik38IZU/edit?usp=sharing

I also found a reliable way to add images. Just use this link if you can.

https://imgur.com/a/HJGDf7H

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I think this is a cool idea. I'm probably going to do a remix of "Stage 2C" (that's what the midi said but I think it's "Sentinel Complex"). Is Battletoads an option for a pick (classic game but not many remixes on this site). 

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1 hour ago, Ronald Poe said:

I think this is a cool idea. I'm probably going to do a remix of "Stage 2C" (that's what the midi said but I think it's "Sentinel Complex"). Is Battletoads an option for a pick (classic game but not many remixes on this site). 

I don't know. Maybe we will see when a winner is decided *wink* lol. Stage 2c is an excellent choice. Just to clarify you don't have to decide on a track first. You can post the name of the track in the submission and it's still ok. 

Thanks for entering anyways!

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Finally got a bonus mix out! Since i selected the games. I can only make a bonus mix! You can find it below.

I choose the final boss of the game. Mostly know under the title of "The Brood Queen and Her Claws" or "Phalanx Queen"  

Don't vote for this mix please. It's a bonus!

(Now if only this was on ThaSauce)

 

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On 12/10/2018 at 9:19 PM, TheVideoGamer said:

Also i'd love this to be on ThaSauce, but sadly i don't know how. ThaSauce is ridiculously easy in adding entries and voting, and with that interface i can have the best of both worlds on OCR, and ThaSauce. Worst comes to worst, theres nothing wrong with this platform and i can still use it.

You could try to contact @Ramaniscence to give you admin access.

For the time being, I can make a new thread at ThaSauce for this competition to enable participants to upload the songs there and have voting at ThaSauce. So if you want that, let me know.

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1 hour ago, Bundeslang said:

You could try to contact @Ramaniscence to give you admin access.

For the time being, I can make a new thread at ThaSauce for this competition to enable participants to upload the songs there and have voting at ThaSauce. So if you want that, let me know.

Dude that’s amazing!! Thank you so much. There are so many games out there going unrecognised and to get this opportunity is awesome. I planned this for a year actually but I was thinking that this might be limited to selected people. The point being yes I would love that. Plus I can have best of both worlds and it convoluts boredom especially when I feel musically inspired 

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Posted it on ThaSauce

http://compo.thasauce.net/rounds/view/StW1

This link can be used to submit your songs.

 

@TheVideoGamer

I Just copy pasted information from the first post in the topic. I don't know the exact end time from the round, put it now equal to PRC (11:00 AM ThaSauce Time) but I don't know if that time is good for you, just let me know if you want this or any other things changed.

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59 minutes ago, Bundeslang said:

Posted it on ThaSauce

http://compo.thasauce.net/rounds/view/StW1

This link can be used to submit your songs.

 

@TheVideoGamer

I Just copy pasted information from the first post in the topic. I don't know the exact end time from the round, put it now equal to PRC (11:00 AM ThaSauce Time) but I don't know if that time is good for you, just let me know if you want this or any other things changed.

That's good! So i take it, you may be editing and creating things in the compo? Or do i need to ask for permission. I joined the compo group....haven't been accepted yet (I think it's inactive). There isn't any problems as of now though. Honestly i don't really rely on an exact time. I just end it on that day, and that's really it. 2 weeks to compose, 1 week to vote. Simple.

Thanks for all your help anyways. There is such good VGM music out there, with only a huge chunk being ignored. It's always the Mario or FF that get the love, which is fine, but that directs the listener to the cliche, than the interesting. People could discover some really great obscure VGM, and thanks to this people can get the oppertunity to listen and attempt to give light to a great soundtrack. 

Now that i have flexibility in both platforms you can submit to ThaSauce! What's good though, is you don't have to use the platform. You can choose between that platform or this thread! This can attract new patrons from ThaSauce! But seriously though i can't thank you enough. I actually have something to do on the quiet rainy days when i'm not working on stuff.

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1 hour ago, TheVideoGamer said:

Huh ThaSauce does not seem to like my remix. It's uploaded, but it doesn't seem to be actually rendering the file. When i download the file...it doesn't exist....

I wonder what's going on.....

Are you sure you uploaded an MP3 file.

If I try to save the song it mentions 'save as mp file', giving an error if I try to download it..

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10 hours ago, Bundeslang said:

Are you sure you uploaded an MP3 file.

If I try to save the song it mentions 'save as mp file', giving an error if I try to download it..

That's what I mean. I did use the mp3 format, but it doesn't seem to work. Did you set it correctly? Or do you think i should re-export it?

 

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On 12/20/2018 at 1:20 PM, Bundeslang said:

Are you sure you uploaded an MP3 file.

If I try to save the song it mentions 'save as mp file', giving an error if I try to download it..

I figured out the problem. My title was using invalid punctuation, which caused an error in uploading. I've fixed it now, and it's up and running. 

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On 12/22/2018 at 1:40 PM, TheVideoGamer said:

Well, it’s over and we only have one entry and one bonus entry. Because of this a 2 day extension is added! Let’s try and see some submissions. It’s really a fun Compo trust me.

Don't give up.  You will suffer many slow rounds.  But that's the compo scene at OCR...

Anyhoo, Merry Christmas TheVideoGamer.  Check your the round info at CompoThaSauce <3

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12 minutes ago, HoboKa said:

Don't give up.  You will suffer many slow rounds.  But that's the compo scene at OCR...

Anyhoo, Merry Christmas TheVideoGamer.  Check your the round info at CompoThaSauce <3

Woah, thanks! That was unexpected. I guess we can proceed to voting as normal (That is if we don't get any more entries)

I didn't even know you could do it, thanks.

Oh and Merry Christmas to you!

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