Went to an ortho guy, I guess this is some kinda good news, he thinks my tears are minimal, maybe negligible. So that is good to know, but that means I've had pain for 5 months for some other reason. I'm going to do some physical therapy at an actual place for a month or so. I'm curious if they would ok me to do deadlifts. Of all the kinds of weightlifting that position is one that doesn't cause me any pain. Any overhead motion is a no go. But deadlifts, you're just pickin shit up and holding it for awhile. idk. I've been interested in doing those for awhile, and it doesn't look like I'll be going back to rings or pullups anytime soon.