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Yeah I was thinking drums and I was thinking of having some of the strings (or just a bass string) strum like aggregated chords to add more filling to the song. Or you could have woodwinds do it too, I just imagined strings first. I know there are probably better terms for what I am trying to describe (the timpani is actually kinda close to what I was describing), lol but I'm new to music, you'll have to excuse me. I can provide an example if I'm doing a poor job describing what I mean. Lol sorry about the confusion!

I could imagine a rhythm section of strings or woodwinds to accent the song... if that makes sense lol

episode 21 is going to be awesome...

wow that sounds awesome, I wish I could have participated in some fashion that sounds awesome!

Episode 19 was kinda long for an episode that wasn't the last one. I'm guessing its the penultimate?

Yeah there's a timp in there, In addition to... I think the problem is that there might be two double basses here. There's a lot of bass going on

Everything is a draft, nothing is final...

This is a good arrangement of the material. I'm just starting out so I have no advice to give in terms of adding variations. Btw, I just got EWQL, do you have any tips for mixing it. Or hell midi orchestration in general?

Yeah I've just considered eq-ing. In fact I uploaded a version in which I've begun the process of trying to normalize the instruments.I'm far off from finished though. I'm still at that stage where I follow my gut with some of these things. The flute is the melody so I wanted it to be "heard" but now I'm going to begin a more critical method of mixing

Hey you still using Mixcraft as a DAW. This is awesome. Also what vsts are you using?

Orchestration side. Midi composition in general, but especially if someone has tutorialswith these libraries

Not to hijack this thread, but are there any EW choir or orchestra tutorials anywhere? I have the library and I have no idea what I'm doing. Also to the topic creator, East West is known for having at least 6 sales a year. It's very likely you could get 2 or even 3 libraries for the price of one ($500-700). It's what I did.

Wow... guess we can't say about Carolina anymore she lightened up instantaneously, lol

This is more of a "cover" I didn't deviate much from the source material, it's not finished it's only about halfway done. Though I added some of my own parts... they sound like they work. Also I need advice on how to mix for orchestra and how to add realism. Also how do you guys input staccato/rhythm sections... mine's kinda sloppy on a count of me doing it manually. Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHFj7Ap4bcw

New song:

I can't give you anything constructive, but that's because I think it's perfect lol. Definite subscribe I love you work and its style. Also watching the Kirby museum tutorial vid. Thanks for that!

This is the totally completed version of a song that was inspired by a novel I'm writing. I just wanted feedback on the compositional structure and some mixing tips. I haven't really mixed it except for some slight panning and volume changes

This is perfect for a video game. I'm actually drafting ideas for an rpg, I've taken a break from the project, but this was motivating thanks! What setup daw/vsts do you use?

Just wondering, is there anyway to like input pre-rendered midi data into Wordbuilder standalone and then assign words to each individual note? Or is the only option I have to play each note in real time/record then edit?

Awesome topic here are some cents of mine. (I'd say 2 but everytime I post on this forum I tend to have long posts) Humans generally hate uncertainty, and creativity, literally constructing things and concepts from (usually) almost nothing is the most uncertain thing you can ever do. Especially if you do this for a living or are just getting in to it. But not only is there uncertainty in the seemingly infinite freedom you have in creating, but there's uncertainty in sharing your work. What does it mean if you can build a world of beautiful art if no one appreciates it. You can enjoy everything of your own creation, but what does it mean if no one else does. But that is why we do what we do, regardless of skill level there is fun to be had in this "frighting" freedom. Personally, like Modus said I find writing fiction harder. Mostly though because I don't (have to) take my music composition seriously, and I'm still learning. There's absolutely no reason for me to be tough on myself or for me to write to please people yet. That said I thrive on feedback and seek it all the time... I don't think that they are skills that build upon one another. What I mean is that, I feel that they are literally different ways of composition for people of different styles. Improv grants you more freedom and flexibility in the long run and it is much easier for you to start from scratch if you don't like the way its going. I've always seen people (like me sometimes) who hear things in their head and try to reproduce them as chasing some ideal state that might be doomed to fall flat (like pursuing a person who might not like you back). Mind you, there are people who hear things that will all the time work out on paper, for many people having the skill to do so or to replicate what is in your head is its own headache like proto kinda got at. I'm still just a hobbyist, but when I first started I used what little I remembered of my meager theory and piano practice I remembered to create rifts and melodies without forethought and I have slowly transitioned to creating or making works from my head. What I've found personally... there's nothing lost in trying either method of composition. And I know you of all people know this, but as long as you get the job done at the end of the day and you know you gave it your all, that's all that matters (well and having fun). I'm a creature that thrives off of feedback and I feel I don't get it as often as I should, which kills me. I use to stop writing when I didn't get feedback from my friends. I know especially since I'm just starting out... no one wants to hear something that they either expect or know isn't going to sound as pleasant as something they would hear that has been produced. Because I'm a writer, I've started viewing music as worldbuilding, not just in the sense that my music helps me visualize my writing, but the music itself is another world for me to explore. It's propelled my internal motivation a ton. And at the end of the day, even if it's crappy, I rather enjoy listening to something I made. After all I did it... and hey it might be even better than the last thing I made. I think that creativity is all about embracing those insecurities in tandem with the freedom it grants you, because the insecurities I dont think will instantly go away. For me I know mine come from time, do I have enough time to improve and possibly make some type of living (maybe partly) from my craft. It might be similar for you, but if uncertainty comes from something you can't control embrace it. My caring makes me realize that I am in fact alive. That combined with progressive improvement that creates the "piratical" aspects of the creative experience. I know you probably know this as well, but all produced things are in part products of good internal motivation. If anyone is too scared to create (or in terms of other stuff just even produce work) they need to assess why it is they wanted to do the thing in the first place. For me a new song is a new opportunity to explore a new world and possibly augment my creative writing experience. Lol I'm pretty much exactly the same way. I started composing from boredom, with no real practical skill about 2 years ago. Just recently I have a system where I date drafts and store copies, really cool. I use to not be afraid to experiment, but now I really just don't give a fuck. I was starting to fall into an entrapping system of not progressing forward unless some arbitrary criteria was met, but now I have creative freedom to the freaking max. Tl;dr scared/intimidated/nervous? you have a reason why you started writing, evaluating your process and comparing it to others' shouldn't become your hindrance. All you need to do is remember why you started doing this, use it to motivate you.

Crystal Caves and Commander Keen were great. There were a ton of others I can't remember though. Anyone remember that game with the spy, I played that ALL the time. I forgot what it was called. I had this disk of like 501 dos demos or something, at least 1/4th of the games were from Apogee, I use to just spend entire saturdays with my dad or a friend playing it.

what library are you using?

I think they're divorced now actually... which sucks they dated for like damn near a decade. How do you divorce if you've dated that long?

I don't know if any of you have seen these videos on midi orchestration and composition but they're pretty good. More or less this is about realistic performances with a midi orchestra (2 parts): This is about composition, creating melodies and harmony this might be more valuable to those of you who are already proficient at approaching midi realism (4 parts):

Everything thing here ditto for me. I've not found a ton of feedback on session strings, not that I'm in the market for anything now but I would like to note what they can do. Also C&C awesome blog, I'll definitely take a look and comment later.