Hadyn

Hmm, I know that drum soundfont you're using. Some shitty power set from Hammersound, right? I don't think that sound works for the song. You need something that's more dry, and also other kinds of percussion too. It would be really cool if you keep the originals carnival theme. Start it with a big fat bass drum, like the original, and then slowly build it up. Tons of interesting percussion and a nice guitar lead would make this one really cool. Cheers, i'll give all that a shot Got any recommendations of drumkits I could use? I don't really have many, at that "Drums by Slavo" is probably the pinacle of my collection, so yeah... Help? Sora - The bass in the original was just the same boom-boom thing I have going on, only I varied the progression a little to add interest and make it sound more interesting. Or do you mean the sample should sound similar? Azar - cheers man, i know i'm on the right track when it's likened to analoq's stuff ^^; I'm actually planning on a cleaner guitar, I just couldn't find one in the stupid slayer presets. But yeah, when I actually record live, it'll be nice and clean. Or atleast cleaner. As far as the percussion goes, I think I probably will change it. I want the song to be a bit... lighter, I gues. Just depends if I find some better kits/samples or not ^^; ~Hadyn

Soooo, I had a shot at the carnival night thingo earlier on, in an electronic style... sounded way too crap and generic, so I scrapped it. Then, about an hour ago, I came up with a way that I could do a guitar version... Thing is, i'm sick/tired/clumsy, and so couldn't record my own guitar without stopping every five seconds to sneeze/collapse/or simply drop something. Sooo, I put my idea down in FL using Slayer. Here's the basic jist of it: http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/carndumbtest.mp3 Keep in mind that I'll likely start again when I feel well enough to record live, but yeah. I'm looking for comments on the overall feel and arrangement ~Hadyn

Joker... I'm liking this an unusually large amount... It's by no means perfect, but the arrangement is really nice. The mastering needs some work, and obviously it needs to be a little longer, but it's a very nice 'calm before the storm' sort of piece, which I like a lot. Do you use FL? If so, I might ask you to send the file my way and maybe I can help out with some of the mastering? There're a few things i'd like to try, but only if it's cool with you ~Hadyn

I'm not sure what KFC would say, but I'd like to see you onboard with this project.

Sora, i'll get started on Carnival Night today. might not sound so great seeing as I can't properly hear things, but i'll hopefully have a little demo within the next 12 hours to show you guys

That could actually be your problem ^^; When you're going to change the style of a piece, it's a good idea to work it from the ground up, and not simply recycle the original. Put in the melody without altering it too much, and then add your unique basslines and supporting instruments, without too much regard for the originals. As long as people recognise the melody, it's okay to screw around and have fun with the other instruments, in order to make them better suit your style I'm sorry again, that I can't really give detailed advice. I'll try and help some more when I get un-sick Keep working on it, I look forward to seeing new versions!

lol, I was going to say something directed towards KFC... but I think Darkesword's taken very nice care of that. Snappleman - the idea of a transition sounds cool, but what if my remix gets voted and not yours? Then the transition wouldn't work... Of course, chances of me winning are probably quite low, but it's still a possibility, right? Other than that, i'm looking to take on a second track. Anything you guys would like to see me do? I'm thinking Casino Nights, but yeah. I might even do two more, or three, even - but I'll see how I go ^^; I'm at a College that literally is *full time* - we do a five year course in two years, and so, you know, if I get busy, then I honestly *don't* have time to work on music, but i'll try to find time whenever I can. After next week, I wont have another assignment for a little while Xenon - Your remix sounds quite chaotic and monotonous - I think it's mainly the crappy synths you're using, and a lack of decent mastering, but my ears are blocked (sick) and I can't really hear it perfectly. I'm not sure how you'd go about fixing it all - the theme sounds very out of place in this style... I think the best advice I can give is to start again, if it's not too late. Maybe find a song in real life that you can copy the style and layout of, only using the Hydrocity melodies - that always works for me when I can't find ideas. Atleast that way you kind of have guidlines to follow Sorry if that's not very helpful... i'm feeling pretty crap and drowsy... I'll post more critiques later.

That's like saying "my opinion is absolute, and everyone who disagrees is wrong". Which is a bit arrogant. I completely understood what you meant, but i disagree whith your attitude.

Riiiigghhhhhhhtttttt... This is a role reversal... Snap's being nice, and you're being an ass... Chill out! Swearing at mixers gives them motivation for one thing only: quitting.

Not a good one, a good thing. I've talked to Snapple, he really knows what he's doing. It's all good.

http://66.221.70.133/hadyn/heads%20up%20for%20tails%203.mp3

You have mine, but it's not there...

First time i look through it. That's nice to see there are more developpements outside the OCR thread. [After looking at the artwork section] So you ARE the Hadyn i saw on DA. I almost asked if it was really you when i saw your zombie pic on the site, but i felt dumb if it wouldn't have been the case. Dude, i love your art style. ... Sorry if this is an unwanted topic in this thread Hehe, thanks man. Yeah, I have some stupid nikname on DA - one of those things that sounded cool 5 years ago but sucks now and I can't change it ^^; But yeah. That's me. I'm gald you like my stuff!

Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer I think we should aim to make it the final. A month is EASILY enough tome to produce a remix -and considering we've all already started, it's not going to take a month to finish... I completely agree Only I should have said time, not tome... whoops. Anyways. I'm not saying that, you know, if people aren't done in a month then screw them and launch the project anyway - that would be stupid. I'm just saying it so that most people have a near-completed version within a month, and any touch-ups or anything can be done after... Just forces people to get their shit together, really. I'm not making sense. need sleep. boobies.

Yeah, but that sounds like my final considering that I won't be using a music tech lab over the summer I think we should aim to make it the final. A month is EASILY enough tome to produce a remix -and considering we've all already started, it's not going to take a month to finish...

Projekt Chaos is very similar to one of the names I suggested for the S2 project, so yeah. I like it

And people who aren't involved in this project - ie. you - probably don't know shit about it either. Stop being an ass. Ichi - What did you change from the last version? I can't put my finger on it specifically, and I don't have the old mp3 handy, but there was something about it I think I prefered in the older one ^^;

Ah, I was waiting for someone to say something like that. Although I wasn't involved in the other projects, I did follow them quite strongly, and it really seems that, if anything, KFC is trying to be more involved than other project leaders. No one bitched this hard about, say Darkeswords Kirby project, and he only posted in it about once a month at times. The point is, we all knew he was working on it in the background... So why not trust KFC about the same thing? I guess people doubt KFC's ability simply because he's not a well-known mixer or a judge... which is dumb. Everything's okay right now. If it gets bad, we'll worry about it then.

Well, I love it Though it's quite quiet - I think you need to up the volume a bit, and work on bringing out some more of the high frequencies - particularly on the hats, and maybe some more mid on the snares. But yeah, you have some really nice sounding stuff going on... I absolutely love the whole first half... It gets a little too crazy for my liking at 2:17, but after that short section, everything's great As for the section at 2:17... Personally, I think you need to completely rewrite what you've got there. The vibe I got from that part of the stage was like a feeling of despair and helplessness as you can't stop the impending doom - a rain of fire. Make it sound thrilling and suspenseful... Maybe drop the drums, or bring in something bigger - timpanis and an orchestral kit, perhaps... though i'm not sure how it'd fit with the rest... Another option is to just get rid of that sectin alltogether, and have it go straight to the section at 2:30. I think that'd work well too Either way, you've got some great sounding stuff here, looking forward to seeing the next update for sure

I like the "gay+1" in you sig, and I agree with it. Every time you post, OCR does get a little gayer. Go away now. Rexy: can you link me to your WIP, i'll give it a listen

That's GOLD, Snappleman. You want us to make a good project, so in order to help you decide to arse about and insult the hell out of us as much as possible. Yeah, that's really going to have us all inspired... I'm with Ichi here. Leave until you find something productive to say.

Alright, whatever. This argument is pointless - KFC never said anything about PRC. You can worry about that when it happens, if it happens, which is pretty unlikely. The end.

Heh, apart from the typos. In the second sentence I said "S&K" instead of "S3&K", and in the last sentence I meant to say "ones" instead of "one". Ohwelllllll ^^; ~Hadyn

Nice work Snappleman Sora: the reason people aren't sure about including this song is because it didn't actually appear in "Sonic 3 and Knuckles" (you know, the S3 cart plugged into the S&K cart, creating the best sonic game evvveerrrrrrrr). We're not remixing the Sonic 3 music AND the sonic and Knucles music, but rather we're remixing the music that appears in "Sonic 3 and Knuckles". For the most part, that covers the themes from both games, but some tracks from S3 are actually cut out or replaced in the soundtrack for S&K. That credits theme is one of the one that was cut out.

I somewhat disagree with this track being on the project considering all the other S3-only tracks got dropped, but hey, i'll get over it ^^ Your progressions and song structure are quite good, but horrible equalising makes this difficult to listen to. What's with the claps? The drums sound so proffessional apart from that dodgey clap synth (and bad EQ work). It also appears that there's a fair bit of phase/flange on some of the instruments, which is making me cringe a little. I'm not sure it works in this piece - maybe try and see how it sounds without it? Ohwell. Overall, you've got some really cool material here, I just don't agree with the Equalising and effects. I'll give it a listen on headphones later to give better EQ comments, but yeah.