LuketheXjesse Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 ....monthly? WHAT THE HELL?? How do you live with yourself? o_0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Fortunately I don't have to pay for my lively hood.. Not yet anyway. The money I make is chump change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Chump change eh? You probably make what I make (that's my way of saying "How much??") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 7.50 an hour, but I only get 15 hours a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I make $7.00. But you only got 15 hours a week. (I get at least 20, at most 35) Hope you find a better way to make money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpable Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Good. Being composed for the game means it qualifies as valid material for remixing under OCR rules.Someone get one it! Anyone coming to the OCR panel at SITAcon this weekend just might get hear an arrangement of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Ahh... it's in Utica. I'm not allowed inside Utica city limits for now. Too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sengin Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 While the game does pick up after Traverse Town, I have trouble leaving Traverse Town...the music is just too damn good that I don't want to stop hearing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pezman Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Sephire's Above the Rising Falls is the shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifirit Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Good. Being composed for the game means it qualifies as valid material for remixing under OCR rules.Someone get one it! No, it doesn't, actually. "Hikari," which includes "Simple and Clean" by extention, was released from EMI Music Japan as a single before the game came out (granted, only 7 days earlier). The song later appeared on Utada Hikaru's album "Deep River" that year, also released by EMI Music Japan. EMI Music is not directly affliated with Disney Music Group or Square-Enix Music, as the music was licensed, meaning that the music copyrights clearly belong to Utada Hikaru and EMI Music Group, which falls outside of the gray area that OCR uses to distribute its videogame arrangements. You might argue that the songs both appear on the Original Soundtracks along with the rest of the game's music, but you'll also have to remember that the soundtrack was released by EMI Music Group. Unfortunately, this means that the songs "Hikari," "Simple and Clean" and the subsequent orchestrations are outside of OCR's rules about eligible submissions pieces. (The orchestrations being arrangements that belong to Square-Enix.) It's pretty much the same for most of the music from that soundtrack as most of it comprises of arrangements of other popular Disney music. Honestly, the KH soundtracks are a nightmare to deal with legally. The same goes for "Passion," "Sanctuary" and its orchestrations which are also copyrights of Utada Hikaru and EMI Music Japan, with "Passion" being released prior to Kingdom Hearts II and appearing on Utada Hikaru's album "Ultra Blue." There are still other tracks from the KH soundtracks that were composed originally for the game and eligible for OCR submissions, such as the previously mentioned Traverse Town theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindra Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Anyone coming to the OCR panel at SITAcon this weekend just might get hear an arrangement of it... OCR's gonna be at Sitacon, huh? Sonavabitch. I was really trying hard to make the con too, as it's the closest one to me. Sadly, work dominates my weekends now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Fuck the other songs. I want Simple and Clean done as jazz-techno rap. No, seriously. I think it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 ifirit, the whole issue of copyright is meaningless when we're considering if the song is valid for arrangement. The ONLY criteria is whether that song was written FIRST with the express purpose of use in the game. If the game ends up getting released after, that is not relevant. It is not uncommon to see game soundtracks get released before the game anyway. Here's another way to look at this: would the song have been written if NOT for the game? eg. Was the primary motivating factor for its writing the inclusion in the game's soundtrack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Suteki Da Ne was released before Final Fantasy X, and we have a remix of that, don't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifirit Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 ifirit, the whole issue of copyright is meaningless when we're considering if the song is valid for arrangement. The ONLY criteria is whether that song was written FIRST with the express purpose of use in the game. If the game ends up getting released after, that is not relevant. It is not uncommon to see game soundtracks get released before the game anyway. Here's another way to look at this: would the song have been written if NOT for the game? eg. Was the primary motivating factor for its writing the inclusion in the game's soundtrack? That might be true in the case of the pieces written by Yoko Shimomura, but with "Hikari" and "Simple and Clean," Utada Hikaru would have probably still written the songs had KH not been there, as it appears on her album of original works. So trying to determine the intention behind the song in this case makes it unclear. Granted the single release coinciding with the game release does make it seem that the song was intended to be composed solely for the game, I would think that the appearance of it on an album of original works would indicate otherwise. (She even created a music video for the song that has nothing at all to do with KH or videogames in general for promotion of her album "River Deep.") I can't explicitly say that the song was either written for or not written for the game, as the intention is quite unclear, thus, I fall back on the issue of who owns the copyright. As such, there is no indication that the primary motivating factor was writing for its inclusion in the game. (Really, you'd have to ask Utada Hikaru herself.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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