Benjamin Briggs Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Maybe the best game on the system. bold statement sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 as much as I love DKC, it has nothing on SMG2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 SMG2 and MPTrilogy are tough to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobocop Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 as much as I love DKC, it has nothing on SMG2 Depends what you're looking for... defeating Bowser at the end of Galaxy 2 in one try was disappointing. The last boss in DKCR is crazy hard and it feels great beating the game. I just wish they did to DKCR's music what they did for Galaxy. Not to mention there is no sign of anything past the first game here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadofsky Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 As nice as the graphics and music were in Mario Galaxy 1&2, NSMB Wii is the better game to me. It pisses me off that Nintendo's devs don't like making 2D Mario and didn't make it a bit better. DKCR is good, took a break on it to try Fable 3.... They need to have Retro do a 2D Metroid, with zero involvement from Sakamoto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Retro studios delivers. Waggle is only used as a button replacement, a la SMG or Twilight Princess. It's not a big deal, and you don't really need to roll a lot anyway. I don't know why you guys are complaining about the music either. Just listen to a song like this one and you know that the groove is still very much intact. Many of the songs are , whether you like that or not is up to you, but I like it.There are only 2 things "missing" imo: Kremlings and water levels. The bosses are much deeper (about three or four patterns per boss, and there's usually a "berserk" form as well), the platforming is the same good ol' DKC style we know and love, and the fact that they used Super Guide in this game lets them ratchet up the difficulty to beyond what they'd be comfortable putting in a "casual" game. I definitely like Super Guide for this reason, though of course I never use it. This is a true DKC sequel, and an instant must-have for any fan of the series. As far as the "feel" of the game goes, it's feels much more like DKC1 than it does DKC2 or DKC3. I'm on the final boss. EDIT: The youtube link that some of you thought was the first boss music was pulled .. . The first 30 sec or so is intro cinematic. It's nothing special, but it's not hideous. OST Youtube Playlist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Yeah this game is good, but does it have anything on ????Scholarly debate leans towards no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 you don't really need to roll a lot anyway. excuse me tencaarara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobocop Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 Waggle is only used as a button replacement, a la SMG or Twilight Princess. It's not a big deal, and you don't really need to roll a lot anyway. I don't know why you guys are complaining about the music either. There's no way you're not going to be using the roll jump frequently if you're going for 100%. Many of the puzzle pieces require the technique, it's unavoidable. It just sucks when you are near the end of a difficult stage (knowing it takes a few minutes to get there from the last checkpoint) trying to get the last piece and your roll jump doesn't register despite giving it a good enough shake. The music isn't horrible, but it fell far short of expectations for a lot of people it seems. The original tracks get better later in the game admittedly (like the Cliffs, Volcano), but the remixes are just so shallow. The only track that is an improvement over the original, in my opinion, is the main bonus room theme (and maybe some of the mine cart and Northern Hemispheres ones are close). The music feels more like an afterthought than an evolution... either way I hope sales are great and they make another soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 excuse me tencaarara There's no way you're not going to be using the roll jump frequently if you're going for 100%. Many of the puzzle pieces require the technique, it's unavoidable. It just sucks when you are near the end of a difficult stage (knowing it takes a few minutes to get there from the last checkpoint) trying to get the last piece and your roll jump doesn't register despite giving it a good enough shake. I stand by what I said. You can beat this game without using a single roll jump, and there really aren't many secrets that need it. Think back to Twilight princess where every sword strike requires the same waggle, or SMG and NSMBWii where every spin jump needs the same waggle motion. You do those actions in those games way more than you need to roll in DKCR. Is it annoying? Yes, especially in time trials. Would a classic controller option with buttons for roll and pound be one of my suggestions for improving the game? Absolutely. But raising a ruckus about it when waggle is a much smaller part of the game than it is in Zelda:TP, SMG, NSMBWii, etc is making a mountain out of a molehill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Or you can TOTALLY HACK INTO YOUR WII AND MOD DKCR SO THAT ROLL IS MAPPED TO A BUTTON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 yeah cuz that's totally common knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Or you can TOTALLY HACK INTO YOUR WII AND MOD DKCR SO THAT ROLL IS MAPPED TO A BUTTON is this possible y/n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalzon Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 It is. That said, real men wrestle with and come to dominate substandard control schemes. If you remap the button you are a goddamned pussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phalanx Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 is this possible y/n It is. I was playing it yesterday on a friend's system and we quickly got sick of the 'shake the baby' motion and mapped it to the B button. It fixed EVERYTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobocop Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 Looks like this game is starting to have a healthy speed run community too. Some of the videos on this guy's page are insane. http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeFenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I was playing it yesterday on a friend's system and we quickly got sick of the 'shake the baby' motion and mapped it to the B button.It fixed EVERYTHING. Oh wow I shouldn't have loled as hard as I did reading that. Wished the recorder on that video could done better than using the guerrilla-style recording there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Taucer Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 It is. Details? I want to know how to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Splint Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Details? I want to know how to do this. Seconded, as my copy is on its way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phalanx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Details? I want to know how to do this. As it is, you need to have your Wii modded in order to do it, and it only works via a usbloader program AND you have an ISO of it. It *could* potentially work via something like say Neogamma and launching it via the disc, but I wouldn't know how to do that. In other words, its not legal by any stretch, and thus I should probably not talk any further about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 courtesy of BrawlintheFamily.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid wind Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I've noticed that too and I greatly dislike it, the mechanics of the game kill any sense of speed and fluidity, can't roll quickly, you lose momentum on landing etc. but the controls are still somewhat unresponsive too. also annoying is that it seems to respond to certain types of movement more than others like holding the wii remote straight up and lashing it forward works well but holding it in a more relaxed position and swinging it up doesn't work as much, the game encourages/forces you to hold the controller in a different position than you may want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZero Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 So it seems like any future iterations (DKCR2?) would be infinitely better if they stick to the basic design established in this one, add classic controller support and properly map the roll to a button, and add Diddy as a playable character in single player mode. Hmmm... so why not just download DKC on the Virtual Console and play that instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Because only a fool would download DKC when DKC2 is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorax Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Tru Dat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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