Brushfire Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 So when are we coming back up? If fire's leaving the server off overnight I might just be able to escape the clutches of minecraft for a day. Play TF2, it is way more popular than that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orichalcon Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 No thanks, one addiction is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orichalcon Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 OCReMix Texture Pack - Halloween Update edition. There we go, textures are updated for hell. Here's a screenshot of how it looks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 I thought the sword that the pigman was holding was a centipede on his head for a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonectric Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I thought the sword that the pigman was holding was a centipede on his head for a second I was thinking the same thing. Sorry for any mild alarm I caused yesterday, Hemo. I'll keep my flint and steel usage localized in my tree nursery. Also no I'm not the arsonist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halt Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I want to play minecraft damnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerlord Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Looks like somebody struck a nerve Are you paying monthly donations for the Minecraft/TF2 server machine? No? I am. So are 33 other TF2 players. So yes, it's not unreasonable for us to request the Minecraft server be killed if it's affecting the service we're paying for. P.S. Technically, I don't have to ask... I'm the other person besides FireSlash who can shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Are you paying monthly donations for the Minecraft/TF2 server machine?No? I am. So are 33 other TF2 players. So yes, it's not unreasonable for us to request the Minecraft server be killed if it's affecting the service we're paying for. P.S. Technically, I don't have to ask... I'm the other person besides FireSlash who can shut it down. ...isn't like a dollar or two a month? so, is the server toast every night? because if it is, i'll not be able to play online any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerlord Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 ...isn't like a dollar or two a month?so, is the server toast every night? because if it is, i'll not be able to play online any more. Last I heard, FireSlash was making arrangements to move the MineCraft server to another machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Last I heard, FireSlash was making arrangements to move the MineCraft server to another machine. that would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Are you paying monthly donations for the Minecraft/TF2 server machine?No? I am. So are 33 other TF2 players. So yes, it's not unreasonable for us to request the Minecraft server be killed if it's affecting the service we're paying for. P.S. Technically, I don't have to ask... I'm the other person besides FireSlash who can shut it down. Powerlord has spoken!!! But seriously, you'd think that a game like minecraft wouldn't take that much cpu to run... Looks like I'm playing the Halolz TF2 server tonight... again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerlord Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Powerlord has spoken!!!But seriously, you'd think that a game like minecraft wouldn't take that much cpu to run... Looks like I'm playing the Halolz TF2 server tonight... again Minecraft's server is a serious oinker. I'm not sure what it's doing, but it sucks down CPU power and memory, plus does a lot of disk access. It literally uses more resources than all 3 (4 if you count Spengboob, which is paying to host their TF2 server here, too) of our TF2 servers combined. Edited November 4, 2010 by Powerlord wtf, "combinated"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSpirit Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Minecraft's server is a serious oinker. I'm not sure what it's doing, but it sucks down CPU power and memory, plus does a lot of disk access.It literally uses more resources than all 3 (4 if you count Spengboob, which is paying to host their TF2 server here, too) of our TF2 servers combinated. The Minecraft multiplayer server/client/whatever you call it is in an even more Alpha state than singleplayer, which is saying something. Technically, multiplayer isn't even "officially" supported yet by the creator; it was released simply because so many people were asking for it, apparently, and up until now he's only gone in to fix very serious, game-breaking bugs with it. As such, it's still very, very buggy and has a number of memory leaks, infinite loops and other such things eating resources. It should be much better when the game goes into Beta, which is defined as when multiplayer is fixed, and Notch has said that multiplayer is his main focus right now. So we'll see if we get any big fixes in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orichalcon Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Minecraft's server is a serious oinker. I'm not sure what it's doing, but it sucks down CPU power and memory, plus does a lot of disk access.It literally uses more resources than all 3 (4 if you count Spengboob, which is paying to host their TF2 server here, too) of our TF2 servers combined. Notch has admitted there are several MP bugs that need ironing out. He's made them top priority. Once MP is fixed up, Minecraft should shrink dramatically in CPU, memory and disk usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthorn Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Some of the heavy CPU use is caused by generation of new terrain, which is understandably CPU intensive. A large amount of the memory use is probably just to do with loading the maps, which can grow to be gigabytes in size, not because they're memory inefficient, but because they're huge. Now, on top of this, there are a lot of other calculation and memory inefficiencies, but a large amount of that resource hogging is never going to go away, even when the multiplayer server code is fixed up as well as is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Some of the heavy CPU use is caused by generation of new terrain, which is understandably CPU intensive.A large amount of the memory use is probably just to do with loading the maps, which can grow to be gigabytes in size, not because they're memory inefficient, but because they're huge. Now, on top of this, there are a lot of other calculation and memory inefficiencies, but a large amount of that resource hogging is never going to go away, even when the multiplayer server code is fixed up as well as is possible. I wonder if the Beta or release version will let you limit the terrain size on multiplayer to keep system resource use in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orichalcon Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 So is this coming back up or not? It's 24 hours now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 So is this coming back up or not? It's 24 hours now. TF2 is way more popular than 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 So is this coming back up or not? It's 24 hours now. yeah, this is pretty bogus. i get minimal time at best to be able to play during the week, and for the server to be down right when i'm sitting down to play several nights in a row... =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Minecraft's server is a serious oinker. I'm not sure what it's doing, but it sucks down CPU power and memory, plus does a lot of disk access.It literally uses more resources than all 3 (4 if you count Spengboob, which is paying to host their TF2 server here, too) of our TF2 servers combined. so, i just checked the OCR TF2 stats page, and there are six people online. out of three servers. good to see we're not clogging anything for you guys. sorry for the double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 TF2 is way more popular than six people on three servers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar-X Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 TF2 is way more popular than six people on three servers. i dont think that worked quite as well as the previous one did. sure, its way more popular than 6 people on 3 servers. but wouldnt that just imply that there should be way more people on those 3 servers... or maybe its just those 3 servers that arent that popular. and as such... i really want a "meet the doctor". because meet the spy, meet the sniper, and meet the scout. were the greatest things outside of pixar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orichalcon Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 i dont think that worked quite as well as the previous one did. sure, its way more popular than 6 people on 3 servers. but wouldnt that just imply that there should be way more people on those 3 servers... or maybe its just those 3 servers that arent that popular. and as such... i really want a "meet the doctor". because meet the spy, meet the sniper, and meet the scout. were the greatest things outside of pixar. Please don't feed the trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Please don't feed the trolls. I hate trolls... you can't feed them after midnight, you can't get them wet, and they die if they get exposed to sunlight. Whoever decided that trolls make good pets really screwed the pooch on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Please don't feed the trolls. I am not trolling. But dude is right, that one did not work out well. FS is real good about getting stuff up, and I'm sure the Minecraft server will be back up quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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