Crowbar Man Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Multiplay seems to work alot better for me on my laptop compared to my desktop. I was getting some really bad lag when nobody else was. But I would rather play MC on my desktop.What can I do to improve the performance on my desktop? What are your desktop & laptop specs? Whatever your desktop has less of is probably the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadoss Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 lol "Abadoss' Long Journey" they should make a childrens storybook out of that or something. I will shed a tear for my amputated arm... <tear>... Okay. All done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noTuX Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 What are your desktop & laptop specs?Whatever your desktop has less of is probably the issue Well, the only difference is the desktop's processor (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.82 GHz, 4 GB RAM) is a bit slower than my laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.00 GHz, 4 GB RAM, T6400), and of course, the desktop has a graphics card and sound card installed in it (which I thought would help). Both of them are running Windows 7 the only thing is, my laptop is a 64-bit and the desktop is 32-bit. Other than that, everything is the same. I just have different antivirus programs running on them. The laptop is basically a backup copy of my desktop. The desktop runs MC fine in single player, so I'm hoping there is something I can tweak to make it run better in multiplayer. I might need to check for updates for Java, but thats the only thing I can think of. MC is also using an fuckton of resources (over 500,000 K). Does it really have to take up so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar-X Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL OF MY CRAP AND STUFF!!WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE MY ALL OF MY STUFF AND AMAZING THlNGS? Its all been deleted Brush. Its gone. Forever. And you are still banned. Everybody else connects to a world full of their stuff. Dont read any of my posts, the MOTD, etc Its probably lies what in the world is going on? also, cool on the server being in San Antonio, lived there, been to The Alamo 3 times. good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, the only difference is the desktop's processor (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.82 GHz, 4 GB RAM) is a bit slower than my laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.00 GHz, 4 GB RAM, T6400), and of course, the desktop has a graphics card and sound card installed in it (which I thought would help). Both of them are running Windows 7 the only thing is, my laptop is a 64-bit and the desktop is 32-bit. Other than that, everything is the same. I just have different antivirus programs running on them. The laptop is basically a backup copy of my desktop.The desktop runs MC fine in single player, so I'm hoping there is something I can tweak to make it run better in multiplayer. I might need to check for updates for Java, but thats the only thing I can think of. MC is also using an fuckton of resources (over 500,000 K). Does it really have to take up so much? the desktop's processor is faster than the laptop's processor thanks to a better FSB, actually. common misconception. sound card makes no difference. i don't think i've ever actually put a sound card in a PC i built graphics card should help with some acceleration, but as a whole MC is cpu-based, with little gpu acceleration. it uses 500mb of ram because it doesn't have an install - it's gotta load everything it uses into the ram. if/when they build an installer, it'll be much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSpirit Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Interesting: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=120160 Basically, it's an optimizer that speeds up the loading and saving of chunks when moving around the world. Seems a little buggy for a few people at the moment, but it might help improve performance on the server even more if it works for us. Might want to look into it, or have Multiplay look into it and see if they can get it working with the servers. I have some worry about future updates breaking it, but that's not for me to decide on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 it uses 500mb of ram because it doesn't have an install - it's gotta load everything it uses into the ram. if/when they build an installer, it'll be much less. A Minecraft installer won't fix the huge memory footprint, notch and his team need to sit down and redo how resources are loaded, i.e. not loading everything under the sun when they might need it. Then again, there are a number of things that have to be completely overhauled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophetik music Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 A Minecraft installer won't fix the huge memory footprint, notch and his team need to sit down and redo how resources are loaded, i.e. not loading everything under the sun when they might need it. Then again, there are a number of things that have to be completely overhauled. not having to load and leave things in memory will be fixed when there's a real install. they'll be able to dump stuff from chunks that are farther away and not continue to leave them in the memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Man Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Minecraft does technically install stuff. Look in %user%/Application Data/.minecraft About 40MB worth of stuff, not including any extra texture packs or offline game worlds Its honestly more so about being completely unoptimised and very poorly coded... The game can't even run multiple instances on non-SSDs, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Call me when I get my stuff back. I am gonna wait to get back on when they fix all of the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Man Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'll get right on that. Whats your number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 not having to load and leave things in memory will be fixed when there's a real install. they'll be able to dump stuff from chunks that are farther away and not continue to leave them in the memory. That has nothing to do with a proper install/er though and everything to do with a poorly designed piece of software. A proper installer may help with the footprint on the hard drive, but given the fact that most of the current files are minecraft specific, it won't do much. Since minecraft is more or less feature complete, notch and his team can go back and fix problems like the way chunks are loaded/unloaded and in doing so, fix the ridiculous memory usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Call KL5-3226. Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzumebachi Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 what's this whitelist shit i just wanna play some minecraft damnit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phalanx Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 what's this whitelist shiti just wanna play some minecraft damnit It's to keep griefers and random jackasses from carpet-bombing the server and forcing a Dwarf Fortress-level spiral of chaos. The last part happens anyway, but at least the cause is usually internal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Man Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 what's this whitelist shiti just wanna play some minecraft damnit Then ask to be added here in this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Are you still mad about the fire I only set one! It was just a very eager fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noTuX Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Hey, who messed up the stairs going up to my tree house and stole my chests I had up there? I didn't have much in there anyway, but dang! I forgot that my stairs were messed up and fell out of my tree, right in the middle of a group of three creepers. Yeah, it was bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phalanx Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Then ask to be added here in this thread! I sent you a PM but you never responded :'< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSpirit Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I don't know if you saw this yet or not, Crowbar, but hey0 has announced he will no longer be updating hMod once the replacement mod is available. And that replacement mod is... Bukkit. Also, according to the Bukkit team, hey0 was very inefficient, making servers running it much less responsive than they otherwise would have been. So maybe once the switch over is done on our server (assuming Multiplay approves it), we'll see a performance boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abadoss Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 what's this whitelist shiti just wanna play some minecraft damnit I vouch for suzu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Man Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Multiplay was SUPPOSE to have my backup ready today, but i switched to the worldname they gave me and it just generated a new world, so i dont know what they've done. Waiting for a responce for the ticket, AGAIN :/ Multiplay will be switching to Bukkit as soon as its mature enough, one of the members of Bukkit is actually a member of Multiplay as well, and Bukkit has some hmod team members too. Hey0 wont stop until Bukkit is released, so we should be good Phal: Post in THIS thread! PM is just so i know your MC name if you dont want to post it in the thread, but you still have to ask to be whitelisted and voted in by someone in this thread. Edited January 6, 2011 by Crowbar Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowbar Man Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The old world is restored! I have mobs and damage turned off until I get home I deleted abadoss arm so next map will be a bit smaller I also deleted all of brushes stuff and unbanned him but set it so he cannot set blocks and just spins in circles and cries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The old world is restored! I have mobs and damage turned off until I get home I deleted abadoss arm so next map will be a bit smaller I also deleted all of brushes stuff and unbanned him but set it so he cannot set blocks and just spins in circles and cries Wait so the place that was originally Brushfire's at spawn that I took over had been deleted..? I was actually hoping for a reroll but this is fine too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonSpirit Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 So most of you know I'm making a fortress town on the server. Well, what's a fortress without a fully functional defense? Introducing the first of the fortress TNT cannons! One down... not sure how many to go. And I think I'm going to be experimenting with the firing mechanisms and construction a bit for the next few. See if I can get something a little more flexible on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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