djpretzel Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Yo djp, Here is a remix I've done of the windfish ballad on LoZ:LA. I submitted it about a year ago, and I never heard about it again after that ... presumably, the website I had it on went down, and I can only imagine that was before you got to it. The 2nd time was a couple months back, but I think I had submitted it too close to another submission. So, here I go again. If this was judged the very first time (which I highly doubt .. I looked and looked) then I apologize. Remixer name: bladiator Real name: Karl Harmdierks email: bladiator@juno.com Game: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Song: Windfish Ballad This is the first remix I ever did, on request from a good friend who enjoys the site. He's the reason I first started checking out ocremix, and I at least want to give this a shot. ~Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 http://www.zophar.net/gbs/zelda.zip - Track 47 Hearing some light hissing trailing many of the notes. The woodwind sample coming in at :38 sounded too dry, along with the other wind samples and/or layering work done. Need some more liveliness to the sounds. The strings, introduced at :36 and picking up some volume later, also need some work to flow more smoothly. Not bad for a subdued supporting element, though for sections like 1:29-2:00 where the strings had to fill the sound a bit more prominently, they were a weak point. The arrangement could have used a bit more variation to it moving into the melody once again at 2:00-2:52, then repreating a portion again from 2:53-3:13. There were some additions observed, but the dry wind instrument samples handling the brunt of the work dragged the additive efforts down for this section. Even working with very unrealistic-sounding samples, more attention has to be paid to humanizing the performance aspect. That being said, I realize the piece is dated and one of Karl's earliest efforts as it relates to the community. (Fall-through next time!) If you're down Karl, I wouldn't mind seeing what else you could do for this, but otherwise feel this has a little ways to go. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I would add a little reverb to that oboe and flute, if I was doing this piece, but I don't think it totally detracts from the overall mood. This arrangement is gorgeous. Piano rocks the house, strings are subdued and really enhance the atmosphere. I give this a YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analoq Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 bladiator is a really talented individual. however, his talent is obscured by this mediocre exectution. the piano sounds alright but everything else, the woodwinds in particular, sound really mechanical and General MIDI. this may deserve to be on ocr as-is, but i would prefer a resubmit of this one go on ocr rather than this one. do some resequencing and get someone to record the woodwind parts with better samples. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zykO Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 the arrangement is awesome. i have heard handfuls of windfish arrangements and they all pretty much come short in every facet imaginable... all but one and that was a long time ago and well, lets just say it hasn't happened since. here, i hear several solid forays into jazz and to that effect, the track is magnificently written. i don't think there's any problems whatsoever with the instrumentaion, either - this is simple but it is functional as such. i actually prefer it dry - i think it sounds far more intimate than your typical muddied reverb-laden soft track but you can't do that to an oboe... the piano is good this way but the woodwind is getting beat up hard in the soundfield. i think the reason i can overlook it is because i am focusing on the arrangement and when i do that, i'm not so concerned with the oboe and i'm enjoying this. this, to some, is a yes hiding in a no's body. but what i hear is a very good arrangement with a gutsy, dry presentation and an oboe that isn't bad enough to reject on merit of YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israfel Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I'm more on the arrangement overcomes any sample problems side of the argument- and honestly, I don't really have any real problem with the samples anyway. Yeah, maybe a little more reverb would be nice, but it's a pretty minor thing. Good stuff. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayLightning Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I've listened to it a bunch more and I do believe the pros certainly outweigh the cons here so my vote is slanting the other way with a vote change. Cool arrangement, decent execution. I am inclined to say this is certainly above the bar, but the production and to a much lesser degree the woodwind sequencing weigh this down slightly. The woodwinds are as others noted very dry, I think the same is true of the piano. Even if you were going for an intimate sound, a small room would with a bit wetter ambiance would have worked - I personally like halls though. I would have wished the the instrumentation/orchestration was beefed up a little. From that standpoint I think in this context, the simplicity could have been expanded on more ornately. Still, the overall result is there and not that much of a deterent I suppose. Arrangement is done extremely well, production is not as good as it could have been with more polish, but still passable at the end of the day for me. Cool mix. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 6Y please. I'm not opposed to it passing, but don't wanna hear bitching about it without an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayLightning Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Bladiator and I discussed this and he's decided to pull this one from consideration as he and I are going to collab on it and work on it some more. We'll resubmit when it's done. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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