Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Weaving the Threads of Time This is a final stage, WIP using the following themes: 'Chrono Trigger Theme' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIO1sajyx_o Tales Weaver: 'Apparation' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68oLYpV1R1g Not sure how many people know about Tales Weaver but it's a korean MMORPG and I think it has an outstanding, catchy as hell soundtrack =) Remix: http://tindeck.com/listen/gsul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Hakštok Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I really like the style of this, especially the violin work. It could use an instrument in the lower frequencies (maybe adding a cello or adding bass notes to the pad) and a bit louder drums (or just the kick drum, as it seemed really quiet in some parts). Also, what are those small clicking noises in the section after the drums stop? Intentional or a side-effect from some instrument? Those seemed pretty off-place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ok, thanks for the feedback hakstock, I've kept your ideas in mind, and have updated the link. I'm not sure what sounds you were describing that seemed off, but there is a little synth ticker thing that might be the thing u identified lol, it shouldn't be too loud in this version - I used a lot of synth for the first time(compared to what I used i.e > than zero ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukunetsu Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Very interesting spin you put on this one Chris. Keep it up man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This sounds really good! Very Chrono cross-y I'm going to have to agree with hakstock about the drums...they could actually use some work throughout the piece...They're very repetitive in the first half, and sound pretty mechanical. I'm not sure how well they complement the rest of the instruments: I think that softer less driving drums might work better, but that could just be me. Also, there's the aforementioned clipping at the end. The only other criticism I have is that the violin arpeggio at the very end sounds very awkward (The quick transition from high to low frequencies). Other than that one part though, it all sounds really good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Okay, so compositional side, everything seems pretty fine. But for the mastering, I think that the master volume is a little too low, maybe boost by a few dB or find another way to give the tracks a decent boost. I think the drums could stand to be a bit louder; personally I wasn't too bugged by their repetition, but a little bit of changing up wouldn't hurt. The transitions, midi writing (did you play some of it on a keyboard?) and dynamics are really great - it feels very organic and fluid. I can tell that you put a lot of care into the production here, so it's not too far off, imo. Good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Thanks Kuolema and HoboKa for your feedback. You probably didn't find the drums as bad as Kuolema because I already re-wrote them haha(and am continuing to re-write them), I also boosted the overall loudness of the track. Thanks for that pick-up. I also spliced together two different violin recordings, cheated so I could get a less flawed performance =) Thanks for the compliments on the dynamics, I didn't use a midi keyboard, I just traced the volume levels for just about everything so I could get it sounding less dead. I chose to do that ending because I didn't think I could go much higher on the violin without breaking glass. And as a plus, that sort of ending is more impressive to look at, compared to just holding one note haha Maybe I can do something to make it more natural, but if not I can always re-recorded the second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Violin samples can be a pain sometimes, especially if they were sampled poorly to begin with (which is the case with almost every soundfont sample), but I didn't find your sample(s) to be grating at all. I didn't listen all the way through, but I heard most of the track (I was really tired cuz it was 3:30 AM or something stupid). Second listen through. Drum tracks still sound like they could be pushed out front a *bit* more. And maybe raised by a half dB?? IDK, usually when I mix my drums I make them too loud to begin with lol Listenned to ending. I didn't have a problem with it - in fact it sounds much more genuine than just doing a cliche cadence chord or low note. Also makes the violin sound more realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Eh, after a few more listens, you guys are right about the ending. And Hoboka, I'm pretty sure the violin is live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah the ending isn't that typical, so mixed reactions at first is a taken, but unless anyone has any objections, I'll prob update this to mod review, and then hope to finish it in a week if people think it's ok. I'll probably tweak the drums more, I'll see if I can give them more presence, but in the second half theres a billion things going on, hard to balance things if the drums are too loud. And yes, the violin is special my Chris/Amaterasu sample, a highly unpredictable synth that ads random appegios to things. But it's also a compliment to think I could be confused with the pure perfection of a synth =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 The Tales Weaver source is pretty sweet, and then there's the CT WE'VE-HEARD-THIS-ALR... *ahem* oft-remixed source. Bass needs to be more human. You've got some really funky bass writing going on there, just needs more human character. Drastic velocity edits should do it, if the samples respond enough to that. Violin is a little loud. Drums need more punch. Piano feels a bit stiff. Choir and piano don't work together, separate them with eq. Actually, some eq separation of most of the instruments would do wonders for this track at this point, methinks. Cool track, nice dynamic arrangement. Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 It was so tempting to make the bell that does the intro appegio play some schala's theme haha =D But that's some great feedback as always, I'll try to EQ and humanize things more so it sounds better and is easier to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level 99 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Rozo pretty much nailed everything I was going to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ~ Amaterasu Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 Ok, thanks for that Rozo, lvl99 and everyone else who posted. I ended up finishing this and uploading it(link above), tried to get the balance a bit better =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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