EC2151 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 So I got this, and I'm lovin' it a whole lot. Beat it and got the normal ending, so now I'm working for the Good Ending. I usually like to switch between the original and new music, as I like them both (though the original main theme is a whole lot better). So, I'm wondering, you Cave Story savvy people, do I need to give that old man the very Polar Star I got in the beginning of the game to get the Spur? Or can I give him the Snake and still get it? My first time through, I took the machine gun, because impropmtu jet-pack = game-saver, but I've heard that getting the good ending is much more doable with the Spur's power (though I have the Snake on one save right now, considering how awesome it is). Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 yeah you have to give the old guy the Polar Star to get the Spur - makes the earlier game a bit tougher but the later game a lot easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't think it's possible to get the "good" ending if you trade for the machine gun. Of course I may be remembering wrong... I actually am not sure of all the conditions for the good ending, since some of them are just from me purposely challenging myself and others are just me being a completionist and trying to collect everything. But a few of them are hinted at towards the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I don't think it's possible to get the "good" ending if you trade for the machine gun.Of course I may be remembering wrong... I actually am not sure of all the conditions for the good ending, since some of them are just from me purposely challenging myself and others are just me being a completionist and trying to collect everything. But a few of them are hinted at towards the end. I'm pretty sure you can get the good ending with the machine gun, because I'm pretty sure I did it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenogu Labz Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Weapons don't factor into the best ending at all. It's all a matter of what helps YOU take out the last three (and I'm not talking the Doctor. ;D ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 He should just look up a cheat guide if he wants the super good ending, than he would know exactly how, and the rest of us wouldn't have to feel antsy about spoilers. And I wouldn't have to wonder what exactly I did to get there...@_@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've only ever really looked at cheat guides for RPGs and Strategy RPGs, like Dragon Quest games, or the DS Knights in the Knightmare. Platformers I can usually do things well on my own, considering I've been playing them regularly since about 4 years of age. The Spur/Polar Star question was just something I needed clarification on. As far as the actual endings go, I kinda intuited the whole "If you talk to Booster early" thing when I found I could just jump across the chasm, AND how the teleporter led back to Arthur's house (plus the whole balcony thing); the rest comes from simple exploration. In either event, I reloaded my save, giving up the Snake in order to go through a very painful trek through the labryinth, Core boss, waterway (no jetpack/machine gun around here.... Ugh) and THEN getting the Spur. WELLLLL worth it. Holy moly the gun is pretty great. Easily better than the Machine Gun, but I REALLY miss the impromtu jet-pack a L3 Machine Gun was. In any event, I'm on the right path towards getting the good ending, doing everything right, essentially. Now all I need is the Nemesis and I am set to take on any sorry mofo that comes my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardicKnowledge Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've only ever really looked at cheat guides for RPGs and Strategy RPGs, like Dragon Quest games, or the DS Knights in the Knightmare.Platformers I can usually do things well on my own, considering I've been playing them regularly since about 4 years of age. The Spur/Polar Star question was just something I needed clarification on. As far as the actual endings go, I kinda intuited the whole "If you talk to Booster early" thing when I found I could just jump across the chasm, AND how the teleporter led back to Arthur's house (plus the whole balcony thing); the rest comes from simple exploration. In either event, I reloaded my save, giving up the Snake in order to go through a very painful trek through the labryinth, Core boss, waterway (no jetpack/machine gun around here.... Ugh) and THEN getting the Spur. WELLLLL worth it. Holy moly the gun is pretty great. Easily better than the Machine Gun, but I REALLY miss the impromtu jet-pack a L3 Machine Gun was. In any event, I'm on the right path towards getting the good ending, doing everything right, essentially. Now all I need is the Nemesis and I am set to take on any sorry mofo that comes my way. You really might miss the machine gun for the first few jumps of Hell fyi. Hope you're really good with the booster 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Eh, if he can get through the evil cave and acquire the nemesis the first few jumps in hell won't be that bad, well the evil cave seemed alot harder to get through than the first section of hell to me anyway. I might be the only person to say this but... I hate the nemesis. Maybe it's a huge fail on my part that I can't just can't avoid the energy triangles well enough to keep it effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirChadlyOC Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 So, I found out about Cave Story when I heard it was in development for Wii, like 2.5 years ago. I chose not to download the PC version, saving myself for the Wii version. Now that it's out, though, I'm worried that the Wii version could actually be inferior. I feel like I wasted 2.5 years of my life, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I might be the only person to say this but... I hate the nemesis. Maybe it's a huge fail on my part that I can't just can't avoid the energy triangles well enough to keep it effective. You're the only person to _say_ it. You're not the only person to hate it, and not the only person who have trouble avoiding triangles. lol, MUST AVOID THE SPOILS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I like the Nemesis so far. I'm pretty good at avoiding triangles, and even if I'm not, one hit is usually enough to put me back on the offensive again. You really might miss the machine gun for the first few jumps of Hell fyi. Hope you're really good with the booster 2! Uggggggghhhhhhh. 5 seconds DEATH 8 seconds DEATH 10 seconds DEATH fall down shaft DEATH Very annoying. VERY annoying. And of course, everything after that... Tell me, is the whole thing just one big no-save gauntlet? So, I found out about Cave Story when I heard it was in development for Wii, like 2.5 years ago. I chose not to download the PC version, saving myself for the Wii version. Now that it's out, though, I'm worried that the Wii version could actually be inferior. I feel like I wasted 2.5 years of my life, man. If you got and/or want to spend the cash, I'd say just go for it. I'll also say that I have the exact same misgivings you had, but I decided to just go with it and go for the Wii version. I'm loving the Wii version, the option to switch between the musics is pretty damn great (though I only really felt it necessary to switch to the old in the are called Plantation. When you get there, you'll feel the same way), and it is an all-around great game that I have already sunk more than ten hours into (comparing the say, 13 hours I put on my first playthrough of Metroid Prime 3 Corruption... amazingly, I'll have to say right now that Cave Story is better made than Corruption; coming from the biggest die-hard Metroid fan, that is saying something.). Get it, or if you wanna be cheap, get it on PC. However, this type of game (for me anyway) was a lot more comfortable with a remote (and no, no joypad; those things are gay). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hell is one long no save gauntlet. Have fun with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollgagh Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 BUT you get to feel like a godam badass when you do beat it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 My best time so far is 5:43 with the Snake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Oh cool you got around to visiting hell I've never done a speedrun before, because I suck and it takes me forever to kill stuff...and things, takes a good 10-15 minutes? I wonder if getting it on the wii would make it easier, I have trouble coordinating my fingers between jump/boost and letting go of a charged shot on the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I don't do speedruns just because they aren't fun and they are time consuming to perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenogu Labz Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yeaaah, I'm satisfied with saying I beat Hell once. After two years of trying on and off to beat it. That was a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I like replaying hell occasionally, it's good fun. EDIT: Wait, two years!?! It's not THAT hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenogu Labz Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I didn't have the reflexes back then. I don't have all that great reflexes now, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I don't do speedruns just because they aren't fun and they are time consuming to perfect. Unless the game is [a] Metroid; then above point is false And fuck Hell. Jeeziz, gotta love the whole "lol be totally dependent on random health drops" and how Heavy Press eats away all the health you saved up, and Ballos... This is going to be a long weekend, I can feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardicKnowledge Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Unless the game is [a] Metroid; then above point is falseAnd fuck Hell. Jeeziz, gotta love the whole "lol be totally dependent on random health drops" and how Heavy Press eats away all the health you saved up, and Ballos... This is going to be a long weekend, I can feel it. You shouldn't be taking any damage from Heavy Press -- dodge one laser, fire up with your dual Nemesis guns and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hmmmmmm.... And here I was using missiles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Oh cool you got around to visiting hell I've never done a speedrun before, because I suck and it takes me forever to kill stuff...and things, takes a good 10-15 minutes? I wonder if getting it on the wii would make it easier, I have trouble coordinating my fingers between jump/boost and letting go of a charged shot on the keyboard. yea i got to it a while back on the pc, which is what my fastest time is from. i am finding it actually harder to play this on the wiimote than on the pc. my sanctuary runs on the wii keeps being around 7 minutes. randomly, my psp sanctuary run is around the same as my pc run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 And here I was using missiles... You wanna save those for Ballos' final form. RAPE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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