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sweetness, no we the remixers can start moviing forward

i agree with doomsday on the arrangement parts. I think you should throw in a pad behind everything. The soundscape sounds a lil bleak in the beggining. I know its the intro but it could use more. For some nice variation parts of this arrangement melody/harmony wise that get recycled throughout the song you could certain parts through a granulizer for a real nice change of pace. Also the last part of this especially the part that had the flute and that bass. it was only there for about 10 secs...that was awesome! Needs to have it own section.

if we could have some place to post our WIP's to get feedback from those involved in the project would be nice. Also on my WIP the samples and synths I used are being updated with some wicked nice sounds from the Komplete 3 setup I just got on saturday.

Crtl + A (select all) Alt + C (change colour) Everything should be green now. Ahh my guess is it had something to do with the midi channels omg thank u so much, i was not looking forward to the alternatives...

ok i know this sounds crazy, but Kontakt 2 will only play notes that are the colour green on piano roll. Crazy yes, why I don't know. Is there a way to just simply change the colour or set a default colour for all the notes on piano roll?

Wats up guys, yup I got another problem here it is. It's involving Kontakt 2. OK here's how the story goes...I have a pre-existing song. I insert Kontakt 2 as a VST. I choose say for instance a guitar sample to use. I test to see how the guitar sounds so I hit a few kets on my midi keyboard and some nice distorted guitar comes out. Next I copy a melody from a pre-existing instrument (slayer for instance) on the panel and paste it into Kontakt 2. Kontakt 2 does not play the melody I pasted into it. However if I write a new melody into the the piano roll for that same Kontakt 2 it plays it just fine. Also if I copy the new melody that I just wrote in the piano roll for Kontakt 2 and paste it into another Kontakt 2 VST that is using a piano as a sample for example. That melody plays on the Kontakt 2 using a piano. When I import a midi file and replace one of the midi out's that contains a melody with a Kontakt 2 VST it doesn't play either. So if anyone else knows anything let me know, bc it's gonna suck rebuilding melodies by having to use ghost chanells and then re-selecting where each note goes... That's like form of torture for a remixer.

yup this thing was sold out clear across the internet. Sorry djp, but zzsounds ran out of it. But luckily my local guitar center had 1 copy left, so I got it and now I'm very very poor, but very very happy. I think the deal you got going with them is a good thing. It helps out us remixers by getting the cheapest prices, helps out the site bc of the commission, and it helps out zzsounds bc they get more customers.

yup this thing was sold out clear across the internet. But luckily my local guitar center had 1 copy left, so I got it and now I'm very very poor, but very very happy. Sorry djp, but zzsounds ran out of it. I think the deal you got going with them is good thing. It helps out us remixers by getting the cheapest prices, helps out the site bc of the commission, and it helps out zz sounds bc they get more customers.

damn, oh well. thanks dude, i'll still go ahead and give them a call just in case...you never know.

i think polls get no love on the wip forums OK, this is good...enjoyable even haha its really good. I think the mastering is what needs the most work. The soundscape just seems like it could be better. This is hard to describe, but most orchestral mixes have that nice even feel to em, all the instruments blend in together. Like in Jeremy Soule's Terra remix how all the instruments create that soundscape. Prob in places in this mix the lower octave sounds (the non-staccato) could be more in the foreground to add to this effect. Give the mix a deeper richer feel in areas. This would def work as the main melody is full of emotion, but some of the harmonies don't carry that same feeling and rush of emotion as the main melody does. Bells around 1:58 seem to ring just a lil too high, perfect idea. Kinda hurt my ears just a lil. Damn I really had to dig deep on this one for some good criticism. This is really well done. Not very familiar with the source tune, been ages since I played FFIX and I didn't play very much of it.

Damn you and ur full version, after listening to the demos and watching some videos...wow I need this to create some bad ass soundscapes, it'll send my production capabilities through the roof. this is what it says on the website "New, Version 3 Update from Version 2" Doesn't say for sure "this is the full version" or "this is an upgrade version and you need to previosuly own other NI software to use this package" Damn, well it looks like I'm gonna have to call up zzsounds tomorrow and see for sure what it is exactly I'd be ordering. When that happens I'll let you guys know da info.

"KOMPLETE 3 Upgrade NI-VERSARY Special Offer valid until September 10th. Available to registered users of any one of the following products: KORE REAKTOR 4 or 5 GUITAR RIG 1 or 2 KONTAKT 1 or 2 And for registered users of two single NI products contained in NI KOMPLETE 3 (e.g. ABSYNTH 3 AND KOMPAKT). Please note: If you purchase this KOMPLETE 3 NI-VERSARY Upgrade Offer as a user of REAKTOR 4/5, GUITAR RIG 1/2 or KONTAKT 1/2, KOMPLETE 3 must be activated until September 10th! 1,149.00 USD" Above is the version info from the NI website on the Komplete 3 package listed in the link you posted http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 In Doomsday's thread about this completely kick ass deal. I'd love to buy this from zzsounds and on their website it says nothin about having to be a previous registered owner of other certain NI products to be able to purchase or use the Komplete 3 package they got for sale on that link. Basically it boils down to this, if I buy this package off of zzsounds will I be able to use all the kick ass synths and instruments in this package even though I'm not a registered owner of any other NI instruments at the present moment?

"KOMPLETE 3 Upgrade NI-VERSARY Special Offer valid until September 10th. Available to registered users of any one of the following products: KORE REAKTOR 4 or 5 GUITAR RIG 1 or 2 KONTAKT 1 or 2 And for registered users of two single NI products contained in NI KOMPLETE 3 (e.g. ABSYNTH 3 AND KOMPAKT). Please note: If you purchase this KOMPLETE 3 NI-VERSARY Upgrade Offer as a user of REAKTOR 4/5, GUITAR RIG 1/2 or KONTAKT 1/2, KOMPLETE 3 must be activated until September 10th! 1,149.00 USD" Above is the version info from the NI website on the Komplete 3 package listed in the link you posted http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 In Doomsday's thread about this completely kick ass deal. I'd love to buy this from zzsounds and on their website it says nothin about having to be a previous registered owner of other certain NI products to be able to purchase or use the Komplete 3 package they got for sale on that link. Basically it boils down to this, if I buy this package off of zzsounds will I be able to use all the kick ass synths and instruments in this package even though I'm not a registered owner of any other NI instruments at the present moment?

yeah the instrumental is awesome, def pop. As an example for some of the vocals effects, djp's xenosaga 7yearsBroken is a good example. How he has his voice echo in parts. Especially on those drawn out notes. Lyrically, the "oh yeah" parts seem a lil cliche But I get the idea. Maybe try something different there. Production wise maybe use some similar effects that are on the instrumental on parts of your voice, so your voice blends into the feel of the instrumental more and presents more of an even feel. The two just feel seperate at the present moment. With the right attention in implementing the vocals this one will be pretty friggin awesome.

ok guys, for some reason today the keyboard works perfectly fine ...yes i am that happy. I didn't touch a thing and it's working just fine. Unless my computer need to be restarted 4 times and not just once after I installed the drivers? But that's completely illogical, so who knows what happened just as long as it works I'm happy So if anyone just got a midi keyboard and needs help getting it hooked up to fruity loops i'll be able to help you out, but i can't guarantee it'll work first time

that synth in the intro just hitting notes needs to be more in the background and prob panned. It's gets old real fast. overall nice arrangement, u gots lots of variation which is a good thing. Dude that water thing reminds of ur sig way too much WTF! I think it's OK. Not real bad, not too good either. If your heart is set on keeping, then prob lower the volume. You could take it and run it through a granulizer. Rip just the water synth playing playing it's ending piece as a wav file, and then feed that wav file through a grandulizer. I've done this to part of my schala mix and found it yield pretty good results.

Alrighty it's submitted, if you guys have any clipping please let me know right away so I can fix it. My speaker's are blown so...you get the picture. Googlepages Link http://avaris.studios.googlepages.com/LufiaandtheFortressofDoomThatGirlIKnewOCReMix.mp3 Putfile Link http://media.putfile.com/Lufia-That-Girl-I-Knew-90

the main problem with this is going to be going between the various styles that you'll have on this project. megamixes work because the songs all have a pretty similar style and speed to them. how are you going to compensate between, say, a classical piece at 72 bpm and a techno rock piece at 158 bpm? Check the first post to get the details on the "supermix" idea. For however many styles/genres are covered that's how many 'supermixes' there will be. So for instance with the WIP's we got going right now there will defiantly be an orchestral supermix. The super mixes will be done after all the remixes are done.

Okay I am posting this tomorrow unless anyone else can notice anything. I am still getting a lil bit of static in my speakers with flute, but my speakers are so anyone else experiencing the same thing. Prometheus I changed those notes at 3:31, but I think I'm gonna change them back to how they were before which is how they were in the source tune. Those same exact notes play at 1:54. That playing the melody at a semitone happens in numerous places throughout the whole piece. Unless everyone else objects i won't change it. Thanks for all ur comments so far guys, to think I only started making this just as a cover for fun. Edit: Wow Im an idiot, I accidently turned off the soft clipper and forgot to turn it back on. Well since it takes 4 hours for this thing to rip, guess I won't be able to give it another listen to till tomorrow. Putfile link http://media.putfile.com/lufias-theme-that-girl-i-knew Googlepages link http://avaris.studios.googlepages.com/ThatGirlIKnew.mp3

wats up guys. Ok this is killing me softly...I just got a Korg K49 midi keyboard. Well I installed the drivers, and followed all the forums at FLStudio.com and went through all the proper steps. I am using the midi controllers that i installed off of the disc into Fl Studio 6. Well when I play the keyboard a couple things happen. 1. It plays the note but at rapid fire 2. it doesn't play the note at all 3. it plays the note about 5-10 seconds after I press the key 4. it won't let me play two notes at the same time. 5. I'll hit the key once and like 5 disjointed notes will come out, then I hit the same key again absolutely nothing. 6. the overall response is complete crap Steps 1-6 also happen when I use the stand alone vst to play the midi keyboard. Fl Studio isn't even on when this happens. I have also done some trouble shooting by messing around with all the settings on both fruity loops and the standalone vst, the sound changes a little bit but those same problems are still there. I installed all the the drivers and the programs that came off the disc. I went step by step through fl studio and set up all the correct midi settings. Am I missing something obvious, or is the keyboard I just got suck. My computer has a creative xi-fi soundcard. AMD Athlon 64, 1 gb ram. I am hooking up the keyboard using the usb cable that came with it. You guys can be as technical as possible as I use to be a computer tech for almost a year and I'll understand anything u'll say. Edit: forget this post and just read the one below.

wow I wanna know what happened for u to know that! Of course u mighta just been bored and looked it up. Yeah thanks arek, things have been steadily moving along and those already involved are dedicated to taking the right steps to make this project more that just a "la project" (guess im too new to get that one, but i catch ur drift) and really produce something this community will love.

Thanks Prometheus and sephfire. I noticed those volume disparities on first listen but on my second listen I didn't, so I let them pass. But I'll fix em now as someone else has noticed them. Yeah I forgot to change the flute melody too, but I changed all the pads to fit it, fixing that will take two seconds. Yeah Prometheus I though u wanted to replace F# with Bm, but oh well some of the best things ever created were accidents. Like potatoe chips and cookies. Well I'll make those adjustments and then rip the final version tonight. Yeah guess I'll turn down the overall volume of the mix bc I already got a soft clipper and multibandcompressor for everything.

alright i put in the modulation at :43 (part 3) and 1:44 (part 5). And also messed around with a few volume levels. OK so I think the modulation is completely kick ass and a brilliant idea at 1:44. At :43 sounds just a lil off in my opinion. Ok so if u guys notice any notes where the volume level or the dynamics seem off let me know. One or two more updates and then I'm submitting this one. I don't do a ton of orchestral style mixes so any advice on the mastering and production is welcome. Putfile link http://media.putfile.com/lufia-modulation Googlepages link http://avaris.studios.googlepages.com/Lufia3modulation.mp3

Update: Fixed the snare, and some of the mastering all over especially on the strings and flute. It's piccolo flute playing backdrop to the flute. I am getting some clipping on my speakers same for you guys? My speakers are blown out so I don't know if it's the song or the speakers. Prometheus this version doesn't include the modulation yet. I'll do it after I get back from running errands then rip the mp3 and post it. So check back in about 2-4 hours.

Haha ur right bout the plastic bag i'll fix that one rpggamer180: I'll try to work on the flute sounds a lil bit. It's actually a flute and an oboe playin a lil softer behind it. There are two strings that enter in at 1:59. A cello plays the melody, and then there is a string ensemble that enters in during the background? Do u mean the string ensemble, bc I thought the cello sounded really good? I'll work on both a lil and see what I can come up with.