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It's not Christmas yet

Oh, and I vote for a Tetris Attack or Planet Puzzle League OCR tournament while at MAGFest.

You're terrible

What's with those pics?

Yeah really - the walking contrarian.

Rum cake? Damn I <3 rum cake

Happy jdgfgt day!

Bahamut wins one as black vs Dama, it was a good game, although I made one mistake. Unfortunately, Dama ran out of time so we didn't get to see how it would've ended.

The first game to have a limit break system wasn't FF7. If I remember right, it was either Lufia 2 or FF6.

I thought you were staying in my room? And that's why I reserved a room way in advance.

Well, now that I'm home and back from the insanity of the end of the semester, I'm back. So, nobody has any good suggestions for stuff to do?

Fuck that, no beard for this asian.

You're about to get married - your world already collapsed

Actually, quite a bunch of musicians are getting a kick out of reading your posts right now. Calling Hans Zimmer industrial? Anyone who knows anything about the industrial genre would laugh at the outrageousness of this statement, amongst others (Hint: Front Line Assembly & Fear Factory makes music far from what Hans Zimmer does). First off, all of this discussion IS offtopic. The person asked for realistic guitars, not real guitars - that is clear from the original post. Saying it isn't doesn't make it otherwise - for someone who throws around the word of logic, you sure apply fallacies of your own, assuming I wouldn't be able to rebut your argument just because you wish to be childish and refuse to acknowledge the extreme thread derailment. Personally, I'm for as little moderation as possible, but when someone shows a childish stubbornness to this degree, I move to act swiftly - you'll see action soon enough, after you get to read others clear disagreement with your stance. I would post more, but I decided to let others do the speaking - it isn't worth wasting my time I could be using to study algebraic topology.

Staff opinion agrees with zircon here. Any more derailing of the thread will result in moderator action.

Parts to build a computer and a nice 1080p HDTV...of course I'm getting neither, so I'll settle for spending time with friends.

Sorry people for not answering AIM...its been a hectic 3 weeks (right now it's finals week)

It wouldn't be OCR without some plagiarism action.

So many maybes this year...it's all your fault zircon!

As I said, Wikipedia is one of the worst offenders in genre definitions - they often get classifications flat out wrong, and sometimes they don't even define them at all, which is inexcusable. As far as metal subgenres is concerned, Metal Archives almost always gets it right.

Why didn't you pull a Prophet and just sleep on someone's floor each night for free?

I agree, classification is mainly just for the purpose of identifying the main styles played, and have little to no bearing on how good the music they make is. Wikipedia is one of the worst offenders at poor genre classification though - just reading their article on alternative rock should quickly convince anyone of how poorly written they are.

I made a mistake - I meant Moonspell. But goth metal got its start from Paradise Lost, and that band is far from symphonic. In addition, "symphonic metal" makes no sense as a genre. For example, take Within Temptation & Rhapsody - those bands are considered symphonic goth metal & symphonic power metal, respectively, but the structure of the songs that each make are far different, with Within Temptation has a strong focus on the gothic elements, while Rhapsody makes extensive use of elements in its songwriting that would definitively make it fall under power metal. The symphonic label is far too broad with no real good definition as a subgenre - there's no credibility to labeling a band just that, because the symphonic label does not give any definition to the style of music, which genre definitions are supposed to do.

Just to requote to show some of the diversity found in metal that some seemed to miss. No, there is no such thing as symphonic metal - symphonic is a particular classification within subgenres, but it isn't a subgenre in itself. Gothic metal refers to the gothic sound that these bands try to recreate, although the genre has changed much since then. For an example of a band that isn't symphonic but that most certainly fits the gothic metal genre, one is Paradise Lost, or if I remember right, Moonspell. Or The Gathering (a goth metal band that uses female vocals and is another suggestion most seemed to have missed).

Lacuna Coil is far from symphonic - they're a goth metal band, although from what I hear, their last album is terrible and moved away from metal & showed that they didn't really care about their music anymore. Most people who hate metal are close minded, or they associate metal with just death & black metal and such, and know nothing about progressive & power metal.