Nathan Allen Pinard

Gotcha. Orchestration honestly is different job wise depending on the composer you are working for. I've orchestrated for an artist, and it was writing orchestration to a piano track, or a vocal. Her copyist is who translated all of that to properly designed sheet music. Not even one note changed. The role changes depending I guess.

After seeing Alex Pfeffer posted this I thought it would be a nice plug for people to grab, and it's pretty darned cheap! Might be useful for main bus while arranging or even some final mixes. http://www.waves.com/plugins/infected-mushroom-pusher

John WIlliams does have an orchestration team, but yes his sketches are so detailed they only have to worry about piecing it so it's playable. Orchestration sometimes is simply making it so the parts are playable. Even pros have difficult on some instruments with certain intervals and such.

Yes and no. If you are a DIY'er then yeah it could be, however many film scores and video game scores are orchestrated by other people other than the composer that provides "sketches". John Williams is a good example of this, or Danny Elfman. Also composition to me is a basic lead sheet. The melody/lyrics and chords. With orchestration/arrangement coming in later. Depends on the genre in some cases.

He posted another one:

Can I hear that naked?

Not just composition, but orchestration and arrangement. In any piece, if you do proper voicing it makes everything easier in the production stage.

That's good to hear. I have 32gb of RAM and if I load all 5 mics of Hollywood Strings it sucks up like..half? I'm find with that. CPU is the main thing. Not sure if you knew about this before my post, but glad you see you got results. It's really rare to see that QUICK of results from a lib.

Well HS is kinda out the door soon now. Looke what CS released: http://www.cinematicstudioseries.com/

I just caught wind of this and wanted to let those that orchestrate and like strings in their mixes: http://www.cinematicstudioseries.com/ $400 USD isn't terrible for a full set of strings, with con sordino (real sounding too!), also repeats of the same note which is tough It's on my must buy list for sure. If you have bought from these guys before, check your email. They are giving coupons for those that bought previous volumes.

It really comes down to this: If you don't make money, the worst that will happen if you get the video/song taken down. This is why a ton of artists just post covers on Youtube and don't bother with licensing. They just don't monetize it and allow monetization on copyright matches. What's this thread about again? Oh yeah.. Is it cool to use voices in songs: Yes. Especially if it's Bill Pullman's speech from Independence Day.

Thanks Odai. That's pretty much what I have come to. A vocal cinematic experience. Much like Two Steps from Hell or Thomas Bergersen, but with vocals and songwriting. Our next album will be more directed to fantasy and more marketable. This album was written after a book. You can expect the same for my track with Terranigma of course. Though that will be very almost...trailer like.

Parody is fair use. However even Weird Al asks for permission.

Hi there! I've been a member of these boards only for a bit, and just joined a remix project. I wanted to ask a favor on this board as I'm having a hard time decide what my sort of side-project band "Immortal Aria"'s genre actually is. The big genre is Classical, then most would call us classical crossover. However we don't release albums full of covers, the album is often a concept, and we hire vocalists from around the globe so the band itself can't really show up in person. http://immortalaria.bandcamp.com (You can stream free) If anyone could take a listen and tell me what band/arist does this music sound like? Who's the first that pops in your head? Here's a breakdown of the track "styles". The album itself is based on the Phantom of the Opera story. A very niche story at that. Some of you may enjoy this, or may not. 1. Orphan in Winter - Orchestral and focused on piano 2. That Summer by the Sea - female vocal (broadway like), orchestral 3. The Bleeding Rose - female vocal (Classical), orchestral, solo violin 4. Waltz with Death - Orchestral, dark, pipe organ, 3/4 time sig 5. In the Mirror - Opera Male Vocal, heavy brass, epic, orchestral 6. Legacy of Daae - Piano/Orchestral, ballad 7. Firelight Through Diamonds - Pop female vocal with strings, heavy staccato strings, pop'ish 8. Chanson de l'Ange - Opera female, orchestral, ambient, huge crescendo 9. Worlds Apart Female/Male broadway-style duet, rock elements (but with drop tuning), solo metal guitar, heavy orchestral, pop-feeling 10. Crimson Petals - solo cello and solo violin, sad, ambient Note to mods: This seemed like the only spot to place this. It's not an advertisement for original music, and not a remix.

I used Action Strings too, however it's so ...messy (it doesn't even match itself from violin to cello parts) I eventually switched to just engineering each note with samples from other libs (Hollywood Strings)

Sams stuff is always good.

I love the mix, the only two comments I'd have is the first chord probably should've been minor like the rest, and the harmony on the first part ends up on strange notes as it stays paralell entirely. It shouldn't end on the 6th of the chord like that and stick with 1/3/5 and sometimes 7 or 9 (depending)

I feel that the drums are way way way too quiet. They need to punch as much as all the other leads you have going. Also this doesn't feel mastered, if that's expected. The song itself, I like the idea, but it seems all over the place and not really structured. But there are styles that don't require that.

Move to Bajor?

Quick question since I'm new. Do you guys master everything, or do you want me to master my own track to a certain DR/RMS?

No problem. Just please note that I'm not a lawyer, though the public domain thing and the Song Trust thing is pretty solid as the company I worked for (Bookbaby which is part of CDBaby) works with Song Trust. Also I dealt with copyright situations for e-books (such as fan fiction) but not the music side. They generally work the same way though.

The sounds starts out good, it really loses it around the area where it goes to a minor key. The notes being played in relation with the chord structure are kinda well..wrong. For some reason you are mixing minor 7ths with major 7ths, which only works in special situations. Then the song at the end starts what sounds like a round, or some kind of improv behind the melody, which ends up being messy. Generally when you have a limited sample library like this you have to stay simple, as violin sounds are not very different from say, a viola. They both compete for the same space.

It did. Sanborn has done the same thing after all, as well as the sax recordings in some of the Sim City 4 tracks.

This is great, as a sax player (that hasn't played in ages) I can definitely get with this. As everyone else said, the saxes are quiet. Be a real sax player and be you know...loud. Why the chorus/double tracking on the solo? Go RAW (with a bit of verb) That ending needs to be MUCH punchier. It definitely dropped off there.