The Coop

That place has been dead since I posted on the 23rd in my WIP thread. IT'S ALL MY FAULT

Bump, and still trying to find that archived thread.

Bump part deux.

I've been following this argument for a while, and figured I'd hop in to post a few problems that console users (up until recently) really didn't have to contend with... - Graphics/audio/bios/etc. driver updates that require each file being installed to not be corrupted or put in the wrong place. Otherwise, your PC refuses to work right in some fashion. - Malware, viruses, trojans, worms, spyware, and of course, the occasional hack attack that affect how well you're system functions. - OSs that decide to stop working, and require a reinstall... or perhaps a destructive restore. - The need to make sure your OS/graphics card/audio card is supported by the software you just bought. - The need to wait for a company's video drivers to properly support the game and/or graphics card you just bought. - Having a system that meets all the requirements, but it still can't run a given game made for that system. - Having your older games become unplayable when a new OS comes out. - Adjusting in game settings, or graphics card/audio settings, to get a game to run. - Having to wait for a patch to fix some aspect of the game so it does what it's supposed to. As I said, a lot of that stuff wasn't an issue for console gamers until the 360/PS3 came along. If you had an XBox, and you bought an XBox game, it was going to run as long as your system worked. There have always been missed bugs in games, but PC games have suffered a lot more from those missed bugs than console games. Granted, now console games are doing their best to catch up since they too can be patched, but I believe those are some of the problems I-n-j-i-n was referring to. Some folks see them as regularly occurring problems, others have never had those issues. It's all going to stem from personal experience. As for me, I personally don't assign genres to a given system. I'll happily play any RPG, FPS, RTS, flight game, or whatever that I'm interested in, on whatever system it's on. I just go for the version that turned out the best overall if it got a multi-system release

... What kind of specs were on that thing, and what kind of horrific overcharging were you hit with? When Doom 3 was released in 2004, I had my current PC (XP HE, P4 3.0GHz), with 512MB of cheapy RAM, and an AGP Radeon 9800 Pro... and I got somewhere between 25-45fps usually with the settings on High, and a reso of 1024x768.

I'm honestly sometimes surprised at how well my 2003/2004 AGP computer is keeping up. Up until I've read some of the specs on the insanely demanding games this year, I've been able to run stuff like Oblivion, the Bioshock demo, the C&C 3 demo, and a decent number of their brethren either decently all maxed out (15-20fps), or pretty well all maxed out (20-30+ fps)... and that's with a 7800GS, 1GB of PC3200 RAM, and a P4 at 3.00E GHz (I think it might be a Prescott, but I've never been able to find out for certain). Sure, stuff like Gears of War and them will probably choke my PC now, but still...

Finally got a chance to sit down and listen to this thing all the way through. Nice work everyone

Merry Christmas, folks.

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! Whoops. Wrong game.

At sixteen and seventeen, they know right from wrong unless they're heavily retarded. They knew drinking at that age was wrong, they knew beating the shit out of a 7 year old was very wrong, and frankly, they can spend the rest of their lives in an 8'x10' cell thinking about how wrong it was as far as I'm concerned. Even a horrid parent can't stop teenagers at that age from knowing what they did was way past something to blame on childhood ignorance. As such, the blame lies solely in the laps of Lamar Roberts, and Heather Trujillo... not the game, not the alcohol maker, and unless the parent knew her daughter drank and knew what abusive pricks she and her friend were when they got drunk, not even with the parent. It's just that simple.

A bump from the grave with a ported classic... Another World More commonly known as Out of this World in the US, this is a GBA port of that classic DOS/Amiga game. It's very faithful, plays well, and despite being in a lower resolution due to the GBA's screen, it still looks a lot like the original. Even the sounds are still there with the cinemas. And, if you have one of those GBA flash carts, you can even load the game into your GBA for play on the go. And before anyone panics, this version of the game is indeed freeware. Not only that, but the person who made this port worked with Erich Chahi (the original game's creator) to make this port happen. So grab Visual Boy Advance (or load up your flash carts), and play a PC classic from 1991.

Yeah yeah, I'm about to make another pesky suggestion I don't know exactly how many total writers there were for this project, but why not just send them a PM and ask them how they want to be credited? Let them know they have a choice, with either real name (screen name), or just screen name. If they respond, then go with what they chose. If they don't respond within a set time period (a couple days to maybe a week?), then only use their screen name just to be safe. You guys know I only want my screen name on there, so that takes care of one writer already

Read my previous post RD.

Uh oh. 404 not found The link looks odd... http://williammichael.net/aocc/l It should read... http://williammichael.net/aocc/index.html

Shame this happened. Having one sibling kill another sibling must have been a nightmare for the mother. I can't imagine getting that kind of news, and knowing your family just... self destructed. Not sure why killing a child is only getting the teenagers possibly 48 years though. Seems like their actions should be bringing the likely possibility of life sentences. I mean, they beat a little kid to death, while drunk, and they're being charged as adults. See no reason for them not to be put away for good.

Don't take this as my jumping down your throat Dafydd, as it's not intended that way... Let me ask you a question... do you believe that every gaming magazine and website since the gaming press came to be, has been doing something on the same illegality level as offering game ROMs? The gaming industry doesn't charge us for screenshots, they charge us for full (or at times, partial) games. They generally seem to give out screenshots for free, so why would it be illegal for us to do the same in some form? My taking screen grabs from Ghostbusters and putting them on my website, is not the same thing as my hosting a VOB file of the entire movie. If it was, then every movie (and gaming) site/magazine out there would be shut down or sued out of business. If the movie and gaming industry don't view these two things in the same light, I really don't know why you do. One simply isn't the other. And as I've come to understand it, the game music you can find on sites like project2612.org (great site for Genesis tunes) isn't ROM data, but rather, it's a format made by a user to specifically record a given system's music. It's not the original ROM data from the cartridge you're playing, but a virtual cassette tape if you will... much like what we used to do as kids when we recorded the game music off of our TVs. Yes you need to have the illegal ROM to make those recordings in various emulators, but the recordings themselves haven't been questioned after all these years to the best of my knowledge. I haven't heard of anyone who's gotten a C&D order because they had VGM or SPC soundtrack files hosted on their site. I imagine they fall into the same area as remixes... as long as there's no profit being made, and no gaming ROMs are being offered, the game companies don't pay it much mind

Why not just make a general statement on the introduction page of the wiki? Tell the readers the different types of sources that were used to gather the information for the bios, and how carefully each bio was combed over to make sure the facts were as accurate as possible, and then simply remove any links/references to those sites/manuals/gamebooks from the end section of the individual bio pages. Just a thought.

To the best of my knowledge, those aren't seen as being part of any ROMs, but rather, simply part of a screenshot. And as we all know, screenshots are everywhere on the web, and in magazines. You can host all the screenshots you want on your website, as there's nothing actually playable being given away. It's just an picture of a moment from the game, which game companies have yet to be against. So having those bits of screenshots (or wallpapers) here doesn't seen to violate anything. Chiptunes are a bit fuzzier, but again, no ROMs are being given away, and no commercial CDs have been ripped from. It's just the music as it originally was. I don't believe any companies have had issue with sites hosting the musical data in its various formats (VGM, SPC, GSF, etc) for free, only mp3 rips of commercially sold game music CDs (be they the original sounding music recorded as mp3s, or remixed music). I could be very wrong on this, and if I am, hopefully someone will correct me.

That guy's quite good. Shame he uploaded poor sounding sub-60KB/s mp3s on that theme, and others.

Don't we all? That place has been a remarkable help in the used game world.

It makes sense. It's hard to have fun with unsuspecting people when so many know the character you're trying to fool them with. He got some mileage out of Borat and the other one, so it's a good idea to come up with a new character or two now.

Well, since linking to ROMs, free mp3s of music that's being actively sold, and stuff like that is forbidden on OCR, I'm not sure why you thought linking to copyrighted text and images from a printed book would be fine, Linearity. It may be a different medium, but it is a visual scanning of material that belongs to a company. To the best of my knowledge, those sites didn't get permission to scan those manuals, so I can understand why linking to it's a no-no. To be honest, I'm not even sure why we had to link to them when writing the bios. I was under the assumption that all they were there for was just backing up bio info so we could prove we weren't simply pulling it out of our ass

Since it's been brought up, I wish to only have my screen name listed. Thanks.

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