Powerlord Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Actually, before it was supposed to remove 40% of your cloak bar if at least 60% full.
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Added server "tf_use_fixedshotgunspreads" convar. When set, shotgun & scattergun pellet spreads will use a non-random distribution please if anything enable this
Secret Agent Man Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 please if anything enable this Yes, please break the shotgun/scattergun. :\
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 break haha what it is really a bad thing to ask to know where my bullets are gonna do when i shoot imagine if rockets had that randomization
SporkNinjaDraken Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 I think it would be more "Break Frogg even more" rather than the shotgun or the scattergun. lol
FireSlash Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 *whacks FireSlash*koth_harvest is not a valid map name Doh. Well, to be fair, koth_harvest IS a real map... it's just the non-official version
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 I think it would be more "Break Frogg even more" rather than the shotgun or the scattergun. lol huh hed do less damage in some instances and more damage in others based on his aim rather than the luck of the spread
The Mutericator Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Yes, please break the shotgun/scattergun. :\ Seconding this. Scout's broken enough as is, thanks. I'm still confused as to why they added that Sandman nerf a while back but left the FaN as-is.
Bleck Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 I can't believe I'm saying this, but Scout's aren't broken at all. You're just bad.
SporkNinjaDraken Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 I have to agree with the sentiment that Scouts aren't broken and they have suffered some unnecessary nerfs recently but was the whole "You're bad" there necessary? lol But either way Scouts have never really been OP just... you know rage inducingly annoying.
smileOK! Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Seconding this. Scout's broken enough as is, thanks. watda. anyway, i'd also like to see standard spread in effect. i dont think it'll change all that much for scattergun might even make it worse midrange to be honest.
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Seconding this. Scout's broken enough as is, thanks. I'm still confused as to why they added that Sandman nerf a while back but left the FaN as-is. but now they nerfed the fan and buffed the sandman and how on earth are scouts broken at all might even make it worse midrange to be honest. probably since youll hit with at absolute most 3 bullets from mid to far range but the even distribution is still really nice
Kiyobi Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 The point is, it's going to be a guaranteed hit. Hey guys look at me I sniped with a shotgun for 20 damage, happening to kill him!
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 The point is, it's going to be a guaranteed hit. Hey guys look at me I sniped with a shotgun for 20 damage, happening to kill him! do you have any idea how much damage a single mid to long range scatter bullet does with the damage falloff youll almost never get near 20 and oh no i shot at someone accurately and expect it to hit him thats such a horrible thing!!!!
miyako Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 lol 20 dmg mid+ range is impossible with scatter/shotgun consistency is always nice dont know how u can say scout is broken esp when the server rtv's to dustbowl and golrush every 30 minutes
atmuh Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 i like scout on dustbowl and goldrush but only VERY SPECIFIC PARTS like dustbowl 2-2 on defense and goldrush 1-2 2-1 2-2 and 3-3 on defense
moooonpie Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 i've played a bunch of different games and whiners are always the same. abusive, stubborn, slow to adapt. they hit their self-imposed skill ceilings very quickly and stay there forever. also unrelated why doesn't anyone like cyberpunk? i can spend hours just running around in there by myself, it's absolutely genius
Powerlord Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 i've played a bunch of different games and whiners are always the same. abusive, stubborn, slow to adapt. they hit their self-imposed skill ceilings very quickly and stay there forever.also unrelated why doesn't anyone like cyberpunk? i can spend hours just running around in there by myself, it's absolutely genius Annoying graphics, music that gets stale really quickly, no goals (in the non-CP version), doors that don't work properly, large download size... need I go on?
Dhsu Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 Haha, yeah, I never entirely got the point of that map, especially with only a few players and normal gravity. You can explore the place in like 2 minutes. Maybe someone can enlighten us?
Kiyobi Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 do you have any idea how much damage a single mid to long range scatter bullet does with the damage falloffyoull almost never get near 20 and oh no i shot at someone accurately and expect it to hit him thats such a horrible thing!!!! 1) Crits 2) Shotguns should NOT be expected to connect at all from range. Like, period.
atmuh Posted January 8, 2010 Posted January 8, 2010 so 5% of them are crits so that means that all of them are crits nice argument and um http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm enemy Snipers are much more dangerous for a Heavy wielding only a minigun nope shotguns shouldnt connect from range ever you must be one of those guys who only plays pyro or something
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