Monobrow Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) Welcome to the Children of Erdrick OCReMix Project CoE is a project which consists of remix tracks from the first three Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest games. Koichi Sugiyama is the composer and has composed some of the most celebrated and unique video game music created. This is a concept album, with emphasis on flow, please be open to adhering to project guidelines for the sake of the album as a whole. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vision 1. No symphonic or orchestral tracks will be accepted. It has been done to death with Dragon Quest music. Let's go for something different and not try to one-up Mr. Sugiyama's own accomplishments with the London Philharmonic Orchestra. 2. Album Flow That is, once some more concrete tracks are selected, I would appreciate trying to get each song to flow, one to another. This is not specifically required for every track, but as this project comes together and becomes more cohesive, I will be contacting each of you to figure out placement and ways to make this album as a whole, more fluid. More like a project, less like a collection of random songs. 3. Do not stray too far from source material. In other words, make sure your goal with music is to showcase the original song's latent merits, adding emphasis to the pleasure you got out of listening to the original. The goal here is to do the original song as much justice as possible. Interpretation is great, and of course can bring out the greatness of the source, but it always comes secondary to honoring the original. I want you to view each song as a delicate and important piece of music that you want nothing more than to show everyone its true musical merit. 4. Lean towards more organic, acoustic, rock oriented and more realistic sounding styles of music. Instrumentals would be nice. Electronic is also acceptable of course, but think more serious, less "cute" in your sound. Synthy stuff is great, but use them to add tension or to volumize the feel to your music. Also lean towards conveying a real sense of atmosphere in your music. Your source tune should be able to give you an idea of what mood you are going for. 5. Be creative. Honor the source, but no straight covers. Hit that balance, that place where you are arranging the song and bringing out the best of it, without straying from the source too much and losing sight of what the original was about. A NOTE ABOUT VOCALS: If you attempt vocals, please contact me w/ your thoughts beforehand. They are a very hard instrument to utilize and implement with skill. What I do not want is along the lines of vocals for the sake of being in there, but more along the lines of getting a point across. They need to be used in a way that makes the song more than a sum of its parts. For example, vocals for ambience, or lyrically to set a tone. Atmosphere is important. There are great singers in this community, and I definitely do not discourage vocals in general, but I am talking about integrating them into an album as a whole, which would be harder, spotted with non-vocal tracks. I hope that helps. I do not have anti-vocal bias, but I'm trying to be realistic in terms of whether or not they would fit, or be disruptive overall. Here are links to the NSFs from Zophar Dragon Quest 1 nsf Dragon Quest 2 nsf Dragon Quest 3 nsf Available tracks numbered accordingly from the .nsf files ALL CURRENT PROJECT CLAIMS ARE ON HOLD. IF YOU HAVE A WIP ON THIS LIST PLEASE CONTACT ME. IF YOU HAVE A FINISHED TRACK FROM THIS LIST, PLEASE CONTACT ME. Dragon Warrior/Quest 2 - TANTEGEL CASTLE (Castle) 4 - TOWN GAME SELECTION (Town) Brandon Strader 5 - OVERWORLD - djpretzel 6 - UNDERWORLD - metaphist 14 - BATTLE THEME 15 - FINAL BATTLE THEME 16 - ENDING THEME 20 - GAME OVER (Thou Art Dead) - Fratto Dragon Warrior/Quest 2 2 - JOYOUS SONG - (Menu) - ShrackAttack 3 - ROYAL PALACE (Castle) 4 - BUSY CITY STREETS (Town) 5 - A LONELY YOUTH - Phantasia 6 - UNDERGROUND (Dungeon) 7 - EVER UPWARDS (Tower) - Christian Pacaud 8 - ALL HOPE IS LOST (Requiem) AeroZ 9 - PROPHECY (Shrine) 10 - TRAVELING WITH FRIENDS (Overworld 2) 11 - KINGDOM OF ALEFGARD (Unknown World) - Cyril the Wolf 12 - RIDING THE WAVES(Ship) - Rexy 13 - DEMON ATTACK (Battle) 14 - MALROTH THE TRUE EVIL (Final Battle) 15 - RECOUNTING THE JOURNEY (Credits) - CarboHydroM Dragon Warrior/Quest 3 3 - OVERTURE 4 - CASTLE 5 - ADVENTURE (Overworld) 6 - UNKNOWN WORLD 7 - JIPANG 8 - DUNGEON - ilp0 9 - TOWER 10 - PYRAMID 11 - SMALL SHRINE (Temple) - Ryan8bit 12 - SAILING 14 - VILLAGE 15 - HEAVENLY FLIGHT - Reserved, pm me for details why, and please try to pick something else for now 16 - TOWN 17 - BATTLE THEME - Shnabubula 18 - THE PHANTOM SHIP - Protricity *19 - FINAL BATTLE (Hero's Challenge) - Reuben Kee* 20 - REQUIEM 26 - CREDITS BONUS ARISTS: NeoS Red = Claimed tracks Magenta = Extension Purple = WIP Blue = Significant WIP Green = DONE! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Instrument contacts Geoffrey Taucer - acoustic guitar (AIM - GeoffTaucer, MSN - midgetboysk8@hotmail.com) MagiNinjA - clarinet, violin (AIM - ReMiXedD, MSN - xmagiragnarok@yahoo.com) PriZm - electric guitar (MSN - prizm_shard@hotmail.com) The Prophet of Mephisto - bass, saxophone, vocals (AIM - mavericksprophet) Ryan8bit - bass, guitars, vocals (AIM - Ryan8bit) XMark - rhythm/solo guitars (AIM - ChexMark) Zoola - saxophones (AIM - zoola4zoola) Olarin - cello and double bass Jeff Ball - violin and viola (AIM - some1namedjeff) just64helpin - whistler Fishy - bass, acoustics, e-guitar (pm, irc) ShrackAttack - percussion, various (pm, irc) Note: If you have any questions regarding this project, PM me. If you wish to claim a track and I know who you are, please msg me with your thoughts on what you plan to do with the source you are claiming. If you wish to claim a track and are new, please send me a sample of your latest work. WIP claims are on a case by case basis. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Contributions: (help wanted) Website: Protricity Design: Monobrow Illustration: Monobrow (looking for volunteers) Promotion: Monobrow (looking for volunteers) Final Mastering: (looking for volunteers) Edited October 14, 2013 by Monobrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I want to claim a track but I'm not all that familiar with the first 3 Dragon Quest games... I'll get back to you after I give them a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Awesome. Here's hoping this can get off the ground again. Good luck, Katie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olarin Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 You could perhaps list me as an instrument contact for cello and double bass, if you want. Also, I've been considering a solo bass improvisation on the DW1 overworld theme for a long time, so I might try to record that and toss it your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoS Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Might I point out that Unknown World is taken? I'll see if I can improve it up to your standards. Also, great to see this project taking off. Edited November 6, 2009 by NeoS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcana Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I tried making a song for this a week or so ago but it didn't get off the ground, I'm going to try again later this month. Not sure which track I'll use, I am thinking of one of the DW3 castle/city/village themes. When I get something solid off the ground I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Can I claim track #5 from the first DW? It's the same as#11 from DW2 and #6 from DW3 - are you eliminating duplicates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'm leaning towards Town theme from DW1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylance Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I can't believe you would have the AUDACITY to take my beautiful, COMPLETED town remix I made nearly 5 years ago off the project. Actually, thanks. Did you listen to that atrocity? I don't even think I have a copy anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 put me down for traveling with friends (overworld 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoS Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Can I claim track #5 from the first DW? It's the same as#11 from DW2 and #6 from DW3 - are you eliminating duplicates? Cool choice. If you're going for that, I guess i'll have to step back, since i've already got one of the tracks done and my first take on this theme wasn't up to par. Can't wait to hear yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Hey guys, I made my first update, yay! So I just want to say this: About duplicates... I kinda want them in there, but I do want to run them by you good people first. I am the type that is for any possible interpretation. Every single song is going to sound different, everyone's interpretation is going to have something worthwhile. This is how I roll. I don't view it at all as a competition. However I want to make sure everyone is comfortable with this first. I am for Unknown World being put in there three times since it is in all three games, but since NeoS has a song already, it was really nice and polite of you to "step back" but I don't want that. Redo your song dude, after the work you did the first time, you deserve that chance, even if it may end up as a "bonus" for compromise. And djp? Can't wait to hear what you have to give either. Moving forward. I am just excited that people want to do music! haha I'm gonna start figuring out a forum setup for you guys to go, and also I really wanted to point out that SETTING ALL THAT TEXT UP ON THE FIRST PAGE IS ANNOYING AS HELL. Bolds, italics, text size, color, assigning names to shit, man that took forever! I can't believe you would have the AUDACITY to take my beautiful, COMPLETED town remix I made nearly 5 years ago off the project. Actually, thanks. Did you listen to that atrocity? I don't even think I have a copy anymore. Oh yeah, and Zoola, no I never got to hear it. I really am curious now. Also get back on this project! :J Oh yeah, it also seems like Olarin wants to try an improv on that Unknown World/Alefgard/Overworld theme as well lol... Hey I say go for it, it may become a bonus too but give it a shot please! Edited November 6, 2009 by Monobrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'm gonna start figuring out a forum setup for you guys to go I have forums and will be glad to set you up. They are Project Hangout Central these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Perfect. LETS DO IT KYLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Will do, after I get home from work in about 4 and a half hours. No time right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcana Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Hey guys, I made my first update, yay!So I just want to say this: About duplicates... I kinda want them in there, but I do want to run them by you good people first. I am the type that is for any possible interpretation. Every single song is going to sound different, everyone's interpretation is going to have something worthwhile. This is how I roll. In my opinion (you're free to disregard it), one person should be allowed to name their track "Unknown world" and use it as the central material. Everyone else should consider medleys instead, and weave some material from Unknown world with other themes. The symphonic suites tend to do medleys of tracks rather than tracks on their own for example. Dragon Quest music is not very motif-based (unlike, for example, Final Fantasy in which we hear the 'main theme' in many songs - you may get the "sad" version and the "chase" version and the "fighting" version) so it may be interesting to get variations of the same track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 In my opinion (you're free to disregard it), one person should be allowed to name their track "Unknown world" and use it as the central material.Everyone else should consider medleys instead, and weave some material from Unknown world with other themes. The symphonic suites tend to do medleys of tracks rather than tracks on their own for example. Dragon Quest music is not very motif-based (unlike, for example, Final Fantasy in which we hear the 'main theme' in many songs - you may get the "sad" version and the "chase" version and the "fighting" version) so it may be interesting to get variations of the same track. While I understand your reasoning, at this point I don't want to try to constrict the creative process in a way that forces people to medley anything up. IMO a good medley comes from the creative process and is implemented through great ideas "hey, this song really goes well with this song!". As in, they flow seamlessly. While I am sure people will medley things up (they already have in some of the finished material)... Well, they is what they is. Start with a song, and where you end up, who knows... But I will consider the starter song, the song with the most source used as a remix of that particular song, no matter what else people do... This just will make things less confusing in the long run, IMO. And yeah, I understand the way the symphonic suites did it, they were going for (and constricting themselves to) a certain style of presentation. IMO there is no need for that in this sort of album project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I would seriously do this if I had the energy for it and I wasn't already on 5 trillion 30 billion projects. School/college really just robs you of ALL your energy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Forums all set. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Yay, super rad Kyle. Man I sound so peppy lol. I just wanna say thanks, it's nice to see some progress for something that sat so dead for such a long time. Any progress now is great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 You can use the forum now, Monobrow. It moved here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hey guys! The forums are up and working for anyone who is on the project to see now. If you want to see the SUPER SEKRET part of the forum for being on this project, sign up and give Kyle a shout (in his shoutbox or pm him or call him and chew him out) and things will be all good. In other news: I will be announcing a tentative WIP due date as soon as I have a few more sign ups, which should be pretty soon. I also have a few surprises coming if you guys listen to video game related radio shows etc. Oh no I spoiled the surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleJCrb Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 NGI wants in on this secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monobrow Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 Update four: Ella_guru has joined this project taking Heavenly Flight. Friggin awesome guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 ...I asked for that song. If he asked first, that's fine, but I remember you telling me it was alright to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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