melody Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 a remix of link awakens, the inspiration for this one comes from link's solipsistic struggle when marooned on the alien island of koholint. i did my best to put myself in the shoes of a boy who desperately pushes forward in an effort to validate his experiences as true. enjoy source: http://vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/gameboy/Z4awake.mid edit 10/13/11: link to my debut album: http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36932 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Lee Lewis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Serious balance issues. Piano is way too quiet. I had to turn the song down because everything else came in too loud. The piano should be in the spotlight. I hear clipping on the kick drum. There is too much going on at the same time, not enough space in the mix for all the instruments. The guitar sounds out of place and shouldn't be there (at least not at the same time as everything else, i.e. the piano). I like the piano in the beginning, but it sounds fake. Probably needs more sustain, more reverb and better eq. The vocals sound really out of place and poorly recorded. You can't understand any of what's being said because of serious mixing issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 i would be inclined to agree with you if there was guitar here. i agree that the eq separation needs a ton of work but the piano isn't something that does? the verb on the piano is practically 100% via sends and it's eq'd appropriately at 950 hz. it's also ivory so.. if you think that sounds fake then there's no way i can help you haha. appreciate the feedback though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Smooth, groovy and relaxing. I was surprised at first to hear the Descartes quote, but it didn't sound out of place to me. I'd agree that the piano, in the beginning, could use a little volume boost before the other instruments come in, or the pads/drums could start a little softer. After that it sounds nice, and quite realistic IMO. Nice to hear from you again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROTO·DOME Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Oooh, I LOVE the context of this, really cool way of thinking about the game. (Although, surely the game itself isn't 'solipsistic' until you find out about the Windfish's dream, and even then Link knows both himself and the Windfish exist, but creative licence 'n' all that.) Despite that, the mixing is really off. It's a shame because all the elements individually are perfect IMO. I like the chords, I like the piano, I like the FX, I like it all but they are mixed together really strange- Ghetto Lee Lewis has covered it really. If it wasn't for that this would be on my iPod. Please fix. (Also I hate Descartes with a passion. If you read the rest of meditations you'll realise he doesn't even believe what he wrote there.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 thanks for the suggestions everyone, time to go back to the drawing board. i admit i love to cut corners when it comes to initial production, a department this definitely is sorely lacking in. about the quote, honestly i just wanted to sample some super old recording of an old guy saying something along the lines of what i copped from descartes haha. i didn't specifically sample descartes' meditations because it was descartes or anything. i guess where i'm coming from is that you can definitely question reality irrespective of your experiences being objectively real or not. so who knows if the windfish actually blew link's mind as opposed to confirming his suspicions? a ton of the dialogue and events seem to embrace that same solipsistic theme so is it that far of a stretch to infer that link's mind ever wandered in that general direction? maybe. maybe i'm just crazy. but definitely thanks to everyone for their input. i'll have an updated version soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I like links awakening so you get a review! ^-^ The feel - you nailed it. The arrangement - would like to hear more melody, seems like mostly chords with hints at the melody so far but other than that, I like! The production - needs work, its unbalanced and there are a few iffy samples... the piano sounds midish for sure. Keep on working on this one, its got a great foundation for an enjoyable mix, ocr worthy or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Will, Ghetto, I just hafta ask: what is it specifically that sounds fake about the piano to you? I find the sample quite convincing, and more expressive than the majority of posted remixes (even recent ones). Could just be the fact that I'm listening on earbuds atm. Just wondering what you're hearing that I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 It sounds a bit like one of those iffy piano keyboard samples to me slightly, ones you get on those school keyboards... also it sounds slightly like it was sequenced, rather than played live, the velocity changes don't sound realistic to me... Its not so bad when its in the soundscape, but when its exposed, it sounds tacky imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydin Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Will, Ghetto, I just hafta ask: what is it specifically that sounds fake about the piano to you? I find the sample quite convincing, and more expressive than the majority of posted remixes (even recent ones). Could just be the fact that I'm listening on earbuds atm. Just wondering what you're hearing that I'm not. Kinda with you on this, I thought the piano sounded lovely and very real, it was also very expressive, though normally your mixes tend to pull out more emotion then this did Cant wait to see where you take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 huuuuge update. op updated with the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 op updated with a new link, gonna submit soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I suppose I'm listening to the update? The piano bass notes sound a little too loud/forced in the first few bars. Also the chromatic note in the 4th bar sounds hesitant and it made me think it was an unintentional wrong note the first few listens. I really enjoy this mix, don't think the piano sounds too bad other than the loud left hand at the start. Love the chords and the arrangement, I have to agree that there was not too much of a hum-able melody going on there. I can't help you on productions but it all sounds lovely to me. I'm a sucker for spoken word over music, I would have liked to've heard a little less reverb on it or for the spoken word to be a tiny bit louder. Yeah, love the key change 3/4 of the way through and the bass line is cool and interesting throughout. So yeah, i'd say sort out some of the left hand notes in the intro and the chromatic turn in the 4th bar which sounded to me a little hesitant. Also I'm not a huge fan of those cymbal samples at the start. And yeah, gimme some melody! Keep it up though, I'm really enjoying this track. Calum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted April 4, 2011 Author Share Posted April 4, 2011 thanks for the suggestions. there's a pretty lengthy piano solo in there that wasn't too audible before so it's completely possible that you missed it. which has now been boosted. not sure how familiar you are with the source but the original is definitely kind of weird with regards to distinct melodic and harmonic layers, as the melody itself completes the chords and is chordal in that sense. the voice leading on the chords along with the contrapuntal bass provides a pretty substantial while subtle melody i thought.. your mileage may vary. and yea the spoken word was pretty shabby haha, there have been general eq cleanups all around that you can check in the op that being said, op updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 fuckin gold man, your style is right up my alley. best of luck with the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 This is gorgeous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerh44 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 This is nice work melody! Keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamphibious Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 That bassline! Yesss. I'm loving this. The hi-hat seemed almost too loud at first, but after listening to it more it seems to settle in fine. I'm not sure. Either way this is really smooth. Link's Awakening is one of my favourite Zelda games and you've certainly done this tune justice so far. Keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMonz Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The hi-hat seemed almost too loud at first, but after listening to it more it seems to settle in fine. I agree with the hi-hat thing. I think it might be good if it was a tad "less hard" when it first comes in. But man, this is wonderful work! Very unique take on that theme. I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I agree with the hi-hat thing. I think it might be good if it was a tad "less hard" when it first comes in. Ditto. Hi-hat needs to come down. I like almost all of your changes since the initial version. Nice little jazzy flourishes add a lot. Some of the piano writing in the beginning sounds like it must have been played by a 3-handed monster, which is a little distracting to me, but not a big deal. Never get tired of this though, could have it on repeat all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 haha doc, you sure you don't mean a three-handed retard? or maybe he's just picking up the piano. here's the intro piano sequence: http://www.flickr.com/photos/61436477@N04/5593321680/ thanks for the comments everyone. the hat issue has been resolved and the world is a little safer place because of it. check the op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMonz Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 This sucks. Will definitely never be on first page. ....Oh wait, April Fool's over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDX Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 i like to listen to this while watching the eagle, especially in the evening. yes i am pathetic. Also good work on fixing the intro. I thought it was messy in the last version but I didn't say anything because I didn't know how to fix it. You're good to go, by my standards at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROTO·DOME Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 yes i am pathetic.Agreed. The eagle doesn't do anything. Look outside at stuff- at least cards move.Nah, I'm down with that. Continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swann Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I pretty much agree with everything docnano had to say. I still think the hat could stand to come down a bit more. It sounds great, just a tad loud. This is staying on repeat most of the night. SO SMOOTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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