Poke'G Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Here's a question (Not my question, mind you. someone who won't leave me alone about it.)Do you think it's 'creepy' for a full-grown man to play pokemon? Considering the first gen came out in the US ten years ago this September, the upper end of the original target audience (like myself at 23) are in college now. All my friends play, as we always have this past decade. When D/P came out, Poke'mon actually swept the lower classmen and DS's were everywhere. By the way, I turned 30 in late April, so don't feel bad, all you youngins with your "I'm 23" and all that. Does the math... Out of complete curiosity, how'd you end up in the fandom, Damned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Actually, I was initially skeptical of the hype around the game. It was 1998, and all these people were talking about this new game for the Gameboy called Pokémon Red and Blue. I didn't even bother trying it out until several months later. I was at a friend's house and he had it in his Gameboy (the old brick), and I asked if I could try it out. I spent about ten minutes playing it, and thought it was kind of interesting. I played it a little more and thought it was good enough to maybe buy, someday, when I had the money to buy a new game. I didn't have a job, and I what money I had I got from random gifts, chores and some money my parents gave me. I was still living at home after high school and I had no idea what I wanted to do... So games were a rare treat that only showed p on birthdays and christmas mornings. Life sucked. So, as some more time passed, I get a job (my first real job); it paid well ($13 an hour), and I had a desk with a computer... that job sucked. But I took he first paycheck I got and bought a brand new Gameboy Color... and Pokémon Red. That was the start of a initially slightly awkward, but almost entirely wonderful obsession with the series. It also sparked a general interest in RPGs in general, as before, I was not really into them, or any kind of game in general. It sort of opened me up to other games I might have ignored otherwise. I got into Chrono Trigger, the Final Fantasy series... a year or so later, another firend loaned me his giant PS1 and a big box of games. I think I binged on that box for a month straight during the summer. It was fun, but hardly healthy. I plowed through almost every RPG he had. Lunar (and that damn staircase at the end... you have to play the instrument. OK. How? OK, she killed me again. Where is it? It's supposed to be automatic? OK... nope, dead again. Fuck you, GameFAQs, update your guides...), Xenogears, and a lot of others I don't recall offhand. It was a binge, after all. So, any ways... four generations, a Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Gameboy Advance SP, DS, and a DS lite later, here I am. I'm playing a game I enjoy, I'm running a project that shows how much I love the series (even if I don't sing or play any music), and I get to chat it up with people I have never met from around the world. Yeah... I'd say it's been a good decade for gaming for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzon Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Considering the first gen came out in the US ten years ago this September' date='[/quote']Are you talking about the first generation of video consoles, or first gen pokemon? The first gen of gaming consoles included Pong and the Magnavox, back in 1972-1977. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 He's talkin' Pokemon there Dra. A long time ago (I guess 10 years is long) Pokemon Red and Blue debut and nerds everywhere around the world started chanting "Gotta Catch 'em All." It was a simpler time when gas didn't cost your first born son, our economy wasn't about to collapse. So really Pokemon caused a recession. Also 11 Days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 He's talkin' Pokemon there Dra. A long time ago (I guess 10 years is long) Pokemon Red and Blue debut and nerds everywhere around the world started chanting "Gotta Catch 'em All." It was a simpler time when gas didn't cost your first born son, our economy wasn't about to collapse. It was also simpler in the essence that there were only 151 pkmn to catch. I remember when I finally completed my Yellow Dex at 140 hours of play. I owned silver at that point, but I never got into catching the pokemons (I finished the game with a dex of about 25 caught). I then skipped right ahead to pearl and discovered 493 pokemon to catch. ouch. So I bought Fire red and Emerald just to help me along. My mom never let me watch the anime when I was younger though, because she (and countless other moms) thought i t was evil and caused obsessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I see no connection to slavery to Japanese commercialism and watching an anime. I mean I like Evangelion and I only own like 10, 38 different Eva figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayzon Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 My first video game was Pokemon Yellow. Really, though, my favorite Pokemon game was probably Pokemon Gold, simply because it gave me the chance to kinda "replay" the first gen Pokemon games, which I never beat. I tried picking up Ruby when it came out, but at that point I found the formula had gotten stale, and there wasn't anything big added to it to make it better than Pokemon Gold. Which is why I don't play Pokemon anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I only own like 10, 38 different Eva figures. That's a rather... vague yet specific number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poke'G Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I see no connection to slavery to Japanese commercialism and watching an anime.I mean I like Evangelion and I only own like 10, 38 different Eva figures. You live in Japan Brush. This is very understandable. Consumerism is religion there. In ten months spent abroad I acquired some 20 7" giant monster figures. That's not even counting the miniatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majin GeoDooD Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Man, Pokemon came out so long ago I don't even remember exactly how I got started playing it. I think I might have seen the anime first on Saturday morning cartoons.. All I know is that I had an old brick GB and a copy of Pokemon Blue (and Yellow soon after). That started my obsession.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 To make a long story short, one day in my 8th grade science class a kid named Jimmy who I wasn't even really friends with asked me if I wanted to buy his Pokemon Blue AND his Gameboy Color from him for ONE DOLLAR. Being that I was in 8th grade, I didn't carry any money, so the next day at lunch I gave him the dollar and I got the game AND the teal Gameboy Color. He said he was bored of it. Then I had a friend named Steve who let me borrow his old brick Gameboy and his Pokemon Yellow. A few weeks later, he let me keep them. Then he became a giant paranoid asshole, but I kept the damn things and never looked back (and moved to Virginia). And I've never stopped going since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 You cheated and stole your way through the series? My god, did you pretend to play as Team Rocket or something? Did you wish you could play as Silver (the red-haired boy from GSC)? I bet you did. Evil, nasty little boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I was in elementary school. I had an original gameboy for a while, but then it started to fall apart. So for my birthday (or christmas or something) i got a bundle with pokemon blue and a game boy color. I couldn't stop playing pokemon. I remember silver too... ah nostalgia... Then i got emerald years later. Couldn't get into it as much but still played it and loved it. Then Diamond and Pearl came out, and was addicted. I had never put so much time and effort into a pokemon game in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 You cheated and stole your way through the series? My god, did you pretend to play as Team Rocket or something? Did you wish you could play as Silver (the red-haired boy from GSC)? I bet you did.Evil, nasty little boy. My life of Pokemon crime ended with Yellow. But... yeah, Silver is such a badass. I liked him a lot. Then Diamond and Pearl came out, and was addicted. I had never put so much time and effort into a pokemon game in my life. I'm not sure they can do much to top D/P, if they ever even try to. Just... so much to freakin' do. I mean, 493 pokemon? It's already almost too many. They can't keep adding 100+ new guys a pop forever... And even if they do, I'm not sure I'd want them to. The way I see it, a lot of the pokemon in D/P were designed to make a lot of the terrible or forgotten ones of times past usable, or at least not as forgotten as they used to be. I mean, Chimecho isn't exactly a top 10 pokemon, but at least now it has an ultra-cute baby pokemon... yeah So, like, I think that if and when the next wave rolls out, that they need to spend some time filling in gaps with totally new guys that are all unique and useful. WHAT A TWEEST, I know. I mean, as much as I look forward to things like Pachirisu... cough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I started playing Pokemon at Red, then "borrowed" Silver from my friend and never gave it back. Then fell asleep for like four years. Now I have a about 160 some odd Pokemon toys. I'm going to the 1st screening of the 11th movie in a week. I am playing Pokemon Battrio at the arcade instead of BeatMania or Gundam: Bonds of the Battlefield. I started the only APO AP based Pokemon TCG league. I'm a slave to the commercialism. >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Off topic... I tried using the IV calculator on serebii, but I guess it's useless if you didn't keep track of the EV's. Is there any other way to figure out the IV's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Serebii's IV calculator is shitty. Use MetalKids. http://metalkid.info/Pokemon/OnlineProgram/IVCalculator.aspx Far better: loads faster, more options for levels and EV, more accurate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Off topic...I tried using the IV calculator on serebii, but I guess it's useless if you didn't keep track of the EV's. Is there any other way to figure out the IV's? Sounds on topic to me. If your pokemon has EVs on it and you're trying to figure out it's IVs, and you DIDN'T keep track of them, the only thing you can do is erase it's EVs with berries until it stops saying "____'s _____ was lowered," etc. That's the only way. Also, MetalKid is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Sounds on topic to me.If your pokemon has EVs on it and you're trying to figure out it's IVs, and you DIDN'T keep track of them, the only thing you can do is erase it's EVs with berries until it stops saying "____'s _____ was lowered," etc. That's the only way. Also, MetalKid is awesome. That sounds like a pretty harsh way...it takes a long time to get that much EV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 That sounds like a pretty harsh way...it takes a long time to get that much EV... I said it was the only way, not the best. There is no other option. Sorry, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Serebii is shitty. Tell us something we don't know there Damned. Seriously, I think this guy lives in some fantasy world where Japan event Pokemon don't exist. If you go into the IRC chat and even mention Darkrai, Shaymin, or Arceus, you get a kick ban. That is total BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yeah, hit up Serebii's berrydex and find out which ones you need. Then go plant a bunch. You're going to need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 Serebii.net has posted new info on Platinum. http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml Details include a release date of September 13th of this year, in Japan. This marks the second longest time period between the first versions and the "enhanced" third version in the series. Following the Japanese releases dates: Red and Green came out February 17th, 1996. Yellow came out September 12th, 1998. 2 years, 6 months, 26 days. Gold and Silver were out November 12th, 1999. Crystal was released December 14th, 2000. 1 year, 27 days. Ruby and Sapphire were released November 21st, 2002. Emerald was out on September 16th, 2004. 1 year, 9 months, 26 days. Diamond and Pearl were released September 26th, 2006. Platinum will be out September 13th, 2008. 1 year, 11 months, 18 days. BUT! If you go from Blue (really, was there any real difference between Red/Green and Blue? A slight change to some spites and one dungeon layout?), you get 1 year, 10 months, 28 days. That would make Platinum the longest stretch, between versions. Sort of interesting, but entirely trivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hellooooooooooo Serene Grace. 80% chance of a -2 in Special Defense while hitting with 120 power coupled with higher-than-base-100 speed and 60% flinch Air Slash? Game Freak, are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Damned Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 I swear to god, it's like Gamefreak watches the fan-made battle simulators (like Shoddy, and Netbattle before it) to see what's going on with competitive battling. Then they make changes in the next version or generation to fix what they see as "balance issues". Except they make sort of half-hearted attempt at it, and you get things like Banette (the only Physical attack oriented Ghost-type) losing it's best two attacks, while Gengar goes from BL/lower OU to full-blown OU because it gets Special powered Shadow Ball again. There were lots of pokes that got screwed over by the Physical/Special shift and sent even lower in the tiers than they were in 3rd gen. Meanwhile, all the OU favorites got moderate to huge bonuses and new moves. Gamefreak don't care abou' da UU folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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