Benjamin Briggs Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I just started it and so far it's awesome I'm going to attempt to play, in order, for the first time, every single final fantasy game currently released also, MADPONY discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 FF1 on NES or Playstation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 That game is sickeningly hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 That game is sickeningly hard. no it's not... That's almost saying as if you can't play with legos or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Without a guide, it is a ridiculous game. I'm talking about the original NES version, as the playstation one has probably been made much easier. (easy mode, lol) You HAVE to level grind, or at the very least spend ages trying to earn money for the stuff you need to just survive. If it weren't for those 3 squares with the hard battles to the east, it would have bored the crap out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Without a guide, it is a ridiculous game. I'm talking about the original NES version, as the playstation one has probably been made much easier. (easy mode, lol)You HAVE to level grind, or at the very least spend ages trying to earn money for the stuff you need to just survive. If it weren't for those 3 squares with the hard battles to the east, it would have bored the crap out of me. I've played the original without a guide way back and have finished it... idk maybe I was unusually patient to level grinding as a child... Even now I still have the original game cartridge and can still play it without the guide. I liked the game enough to get the PS version and the GBA lost souls version that both had the second game. (Supposedly considered as the worst but I liked it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Crust Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 That game is sickeningly hard. No, ff2 is sickeningly hard. Most level grinding I have ever done. I played ff1 for the TI 83+ That was easy. Best combo IMO, is 3 fighters and a black mage. Question: in 8-bit theatre, they call him black belt, but in the ps1 version, it's called monk. Same with fighter and warrior. Did the original nes game call them fighter and black belt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Without a guide, it is a ridiculous game. I'm talking about the original NES version, as the playstation one has probably been made much easier. (easy mode, lol)You HAVE to level grind, or at the very least spend ages trying to earn money for the stuff you need to just survive. Hmm, this sounds very familiar *cough*FF12*cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilhead Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 wait, are you saying the grind was bad FF12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceansAndrew Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Question: in 8-bit theatre, they call him black belt, but in the ps1 version, it's called monk. Same with fighter and warrior. Did the original nes game call them fighter and black belt? Yes. My first playthrough I had a fighter, black belt, red mage, black mage, but I had a friend who swore by 4 black belts. You start out pretty weak, but once you upgrade the job classes, you can demolish anything. I think it's a pretty cool idea to play through all the final fantasies in order. Are you going with the originals, or the remakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Roboto Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Though..no one will hate you if you skipped FFII and III. They're both pretty terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 wait, are you saying the grind was bad FF12? It has been a while since I played FF1, but I remember the grind in that game was pretty bad...and the grind in FF12 ranks as one of the worst in RPGs I've played - it ranks up there with Lunar 2: Eternal Blue, and 7th Saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NutS Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 FF! wasn't hard, for a NES game, it wasn't as confusing. FF2 IS harder, even more with that crappyass leveling system. They're all worth though, I tried to beat them all in a row just like you are trying to now, and after I beat FFIV I was totally burned out of FFesque battles/pace/story. I've beaten them all before though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 It has been a while since I played FF1, but I remember the grind in that game was pretty bad...and the grind in FF12 ranks as one of the worst in RPGs I've played - it ranks up there with Lunar 2: Eternal Blue, and 7th Saga. I'm probably a masochist as I loved playing FF12 despite the grind lol... Then again I'm probably one of the few who actually owns a copy of "Quest 64" and enjoyed it. Mammon was an asshole in that game but by the time I reached him, so long as I casted some defense spells I was kicking his ass. Hell I remember reading an article for Quest 64 saying it as being worse than being given a root canal from a dentist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I'm probably a masochist as I loved playing FF12 despite the grind lol... Then again I'm probably one of the few who actually owns a copy of "Quest 64" and enjoyed it. Mammon was an asshole in that game but by the time I reached him, so long as I casted some defense spells I was kicking his ass. Hell I remember reading an article for Quest 64 saying it as being worse than being given a root canal from a dentist. I actually enjoyed Quest 64 somewhat too - I did have some complaints about it, namely that it's expensive for how long it was, but it wasn't nearly the worst RPG I've played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I must have gotten lucky as the day I bought it, it was sold for $25 at a Toys'R'Us (holy shit less than $25?! yeah I was surprised) What I really enjoyed about it were the the effects used for the elemental spells. I also liked the tune to the mirage palace in the desert where you could easily get maybe 12+plus espers to boost your magic power with no monsters in the palace. But before I go semi-derailing the topic... FF1 & 2, while pretty bad to most. I still love them. Some of the best tracks I've ever heard growing up as I played them as well as the simple stories allowed me to imagine something beyond the simple sprites of yore. Back then of course it was animated in my mind but in a similarly artistic style I've seen from museums and some box art as well. It felt alot like reading a story except of course with just imagery instead of text. A story I enjoyed, I just happen to control the main hero's actions for the most part. I suppose that's what saves them from falling into the "worst gaming experience ever" catagory... At least for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanthos Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 FF III is the only one that's really hard, and that's only because the final dungeon plus the Eureka zone is massive and has something like 13-15 bosses. You really have no choice but to run in and out a few times if you want to get all the extra stuff you need from the boss fights. II had a ridiculous grind; I'm never in favour of a system where you have to cheat (i.e. the choose action-cancel action trick) or play for hours to get just a little bit better. I was a cakewalk. Levelling up doesn't make a game *hard*, it makes it long. Some of the games can be hard if you don't ever spend time levelling, but especially in FF I, if you spend the time being able to acquire the equipment you need, you'll more than likely be pretty much levelled enough. The only other thing you'll need is to level up at the Eye boss who has the instant death spell in the volcano, and that's about the shortest place to level in any FF game I've ever played (which is all up to XI). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hmm, this sounds very familiar *cough*FF12*cough* Nah, FF12 wasn't as bad. I completed 12 without a guide without *too* much grinding, but FF1... At least FF12 had some kind of plot to break up the grinding into managable chunks, FF1 was just non-stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Nah, FF12 wasn't as bad. I completed 12 without a guide without *too* much grinding, but FF1... At least FF12 had some kind of plot to break up the grinding into managable chunks, FF1 was just non-stop. That reminds me, has any one try beatng it with just four white mages..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Theres a guy who tried it and wrote a blog about it somewhere. The most luck I've had so far is using 1 fighter, and just killing the other three off. You get one unstoppable maniac, but if they get paralysed or whatever, instant death. It got me much further then I thought it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfold Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 FF! wasn't hard, for a NES game, it wasn't as confusing. FF2 IS harder, even more with that crappyass leveling system. I totally agree. I played FF1&2 for the GBA, and FF1 was very easy. FF2 was significantly harder - unlike the first, FF2 didn't restrict where you could go as much so you were able to face enemies that were too strong if you wandered. It took me a long time to get very far without dying, simply because I tend to explore and wasn't at a level where that was smart . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHz Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 That reminds me, has any one try beatng it with just four white mages..? You know what's worse? Playing it with four white mages but killing off three of them in the first battle and never reviving. I think beating the game with a single white mage has roughly the same difficulty as 1CCing DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou. Playing FF1 with four white mages was simultaneously the most and least fun I've ever had playing a video game. I think it took me like twenty tries to beat Garland. It's an amazing experience, but it'll go even slower than Dragon Warrior. God, I need to do that again some time and actually play the whole way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Briggs Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think it's a pretty cool idea to play through all the final fantasies in order. Are you going with the originals, or the remakes? psh. originals, duh... I can do so easily thanks to emulation <3 my n64/ps1 controller -> usb gamepad converter came in the mail today coincidentally I came in my pants today my party Link - Black Mage Ash - Fighter Leon - Black Belt Girl - White Mage yes I actually used those names fuck you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Briggs Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'm probably a masochist as I loved playing FF12 despite the grind lol... Then again I'm probably one of the few who actually owns a copy of "Quest 64" and enjoyed it. Mammon was an asshole in that game but by the time I reached him, so long as I casted some defense spells I was kicking his ass. Hell I remember reading an article for Quest 64 saying it as being worse than being given a root canal from a dentist. double postlol I blogged about how terrible quest 64 is on my myspace if you care to read I've been told it's kind of funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoForte Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Guess I'll put in my two cents about this game. I love it. Old school still one of the best ones. The GBA ports while easier were still fun to play. The PSP one...I'd say if you never played it before get it but honestly, just buy yourself Dawn of Souls (FF1 and 2 on GBA) instead. The differences between the two are so minimal (1 extra dungeon...woot). Gameplay wise I think the PSP one is too easy. I went straight from buying my things to Garland as a Lv1, killed him and got everyone to Lv3...I should not be able to do this :/ But this game, being 20 years old, is still better than most the crap RPGs PSP has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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