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As you all know, bLiNd has been a contributor to this project from near the beginning. We haven't seen an update form him in a while, so I sent him a couple of pokes asking him about this recently, but he never replied. Then I came across this... bLiNd's Jade Catacombs was THE track that led me to OCR. Before that, I was cynical and disdainful of most electronic music - I don't know exactly what it was about this track that changed my mind, but it certainly did. Since then, bLiNd has been one of my favorite remixers to listen to. I am VERY sorry to hear about this - as someone who has made such awesome music and has been such a strong contributor to this community, I want to lend my support to him and Jenn in this awful time and so, I encourage everyone to do the same. As stated in the thread, there is a GoFundMe campaign to help bLiNd out financially - you can make a donation at https://www.gofundme.com/aguirre-fire-fund. Take care of yourselves, @bLiNd and @JenZ - we're all thinking of you.

Hey guys. As you can see, this is my first post here as I just created the account, but I've been with OCRemix for quite some time. Though I didn't have the use for my account here, after what happened recently I decided to create my account and create a post about it... As some of you may know bLiNd and his great works in music industry, whether in game remixes or his sole tracks that he's created - he's a musician to the bone and by heart! Every track of his is special. In fact, he was the one that invited me into game remixes. And recently I have found that he went through a lifebreaking incident - his whole home has been damaged in fire that broke out and he lost not only his place to live, but also pets and his way of living - musical equipment... So I decided to create a post in the forum, as for some of you guys you may have know him, if you can or know someone that can as well back him up - please do so. We can't let Jordan's faith go away! This is the link to the fundraiser that Jordan started - https://www.gofundme.com/aguirre-fire-fund If you feel that his post is somewhat inappropriate, please do as you see fit with it. I have absolutely no interest or any gains in this, other than Jordan's well-being and getting him back on his feet. I thought about this forum as a first thing I could go on, because this is the place I first met Jordan on and thought of you guys... I will thank backers in my stead, as Jordan is not aware of this post - so each and every backer has my own personal - thank you! Though it may not mean much, I really appreciate everyone's help!

I didn't suggest it was a bad idea I agreed with John Projects here generally fall into point 4.

I agree with you in saying that currently the only ways we have of making sure we get the best quality is either to pay the musicians or to know them personally well enough that they'll be able to do it for free as a passion project. In music school, I was taught that even though we enjoy what we're doing, we have spent money to get schooling and training, and that we have the professionalism necessary in order to charge money for our services. Well, I can certainly offer my services as a transcriber, engraver, arranger, violinist, and orchestrator. If anyone would like to personally contact me for projects feel free to.. I, like most musicians who offer a good-quality finished product, just don't work for free is all. I'll probably take all the engraving work I can handle, and offer my services for pretty cheap too because I want to market to arrangers who don't have the budget for projects, but still want to get as close to professional-quality scores as possible. I do want to have guides available on the website for arrangers and music writers in order for them to improve their writing, and to teach themselves how to get better. Eventually, writers will get to a point where they will learn enough of the shortcuts and house styles to be able to make their sheet music cleanly and efficiently so that performers like me and other musicians can easily sight read their music quickly, record it, and move on to the next piece. The point is to get quick-n-dirty live recordings of strings, vocals, and other instruments that sound awful on MIDI.

hey this is cool. *correction* It conjures an image in my mind of Earthworm Jim & Crash both getting real baked and decided to start trip-hoppin' slow motion. Nice work evktalo

Great for speedy nighttime highway driving, BTW!

I have a catch-all policy for my rates for things: 1. The project has a sufficient budget and will be profitable which I charge full price for, an undisclosed (higher than $50) amount per recorded minute per track (4 horn parts would be 4 tracks). This is mainly soundtracks, albums and projects that usually have a source of funding. 2. The project has a small budget, and may be profitable but the music is of high quality, well written, and very idiomatic and thoughtfully written. This is small time soundtracks, albums, and projects that are funded by the people working on them exclusively. I charge a very small amount for this, more in the area of $20 or less per piece/track. 3. The project has a small budget, and may be profitable but the music is of questionable or worse quality, poorly written, and not idiomatic or thoughtfully written. This is small time soundtracks, albums, and projects that are funded by the people working on them exclusively. Usually I'll decline these gigs unless it's somebody I know. 4. The project has no budget, and is either limited or not profitable. This includes OCR and some Materia Collective things, as well as passion projects people do because they love it but not to make money. I'll record for free for these, mainly because I really love playing and also helping people realize their dreams who can't or don't care to afford a professional musician. A lot of people at OCR don't care enough to hire professional musicians, since a lot of the music they do is electronic, samples, or they know people who can do what they want already. This community is hella large, but for the most part it's completely recreational or doesn't require live musicians.

Thanks for your input. I guess I thought this community was large enough to support 30-50 full-time musicians through this. And yes, I'm talking about professionals such as myself, my colleagues from music school, and those with an extensive music education who don't usually work for free doing some of these kinds of gigs. Maybe I should reach out to larger composer-based communities and forums instead?

I don't really see what the point would be in a separate community. There is already a sub-forum for recruit and collaboration in which you can find musicians. Plenty of talented instrumentalists have performed on remixes for free, so you'd have to be damn good for someone to consider using a paid alternative. I also don't see why anyone would want to pay a musician for a cover tune from which they derive no benefit other than personal satisfaction. OCReMixes promote OCR, are free advertising for the game being covered, and with the monetization on YouTube as I understand it, contributes to keeping OCR going and possibly some to the copyright holder as well. I just can't see such a service being successful here; especially not when the forum activity has become so low.