My opinion is, hey, the ZUZ guys seem nice. I mean, conversation wise. But yeah, they do annoying shit sometimes. Like sticky camping in the past, and now this. But like has been said over and over in this thread, being a dick about it and saying "oh, you can counter that as a team" is not a reason to be a douche. Anything can almost always be beaten as a team if you do the right thing, but seriously, if you have a team stacked with 3+ members of a clan vs random pub people, who do you really think will have more cooridination and work as a team? Plus, not competative. I've been holding off a lot on TF2 mainly due to this and waiting on the next patch.