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After some deliberation, we'll start this on: JUNE 1ST 2025 ...Hopefully it'll give some people after compos enough time to think it over and see if they'd like to join in their spare time. ^^; I'll also try to take the leap in the next day or so to announce this on both the OCR and Pixel Mixers Discords, see if anything comes from it. If people think I should try to snag some DoD-affiliates (or got friends there), don't hesitate to tell them as well. ♥ All are welcome. :D
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Col!! ♡ My girl! *hf* That'd be awesome! I've only fluffed around with web design before but it's certainly not my wheelhouse, so having you on-board for that would be great! Also need some soundboarding with art designers on what to do with the cover art and website art. I was considering pixel art and some form of yearly theming. But this year is free-form, so I wonder what we can do for that! I'm also happy to let others chip-in with art designs yearly, to showcase what people can make outside of just music!
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Not a whole lot on the CRAC server ATM, as that might pick up after some competition stuff passes and/or if I can get a channel & thread spinning personally for the album. I haven't advertised it on OCRs official server or Pixel Mixers or DoD. Unsure if I should really, as I don't wanna badger people or ping everywhere like mad. I'll try to muster up the courage to do so maybe over the weekend. :) And that's a fantastic idea! I'll update the second post later on today! I've had someone talk to me about it via DM on Disc, so maybe people seeing that he's got something in already will get others excited for it!
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I'll NEED to listen to that album and check it out! 😗 Well, anything is viable and game, so go nuts! :D I welcome you all here! Tell your music-making friends and family, and get them in on the fun, too! Welcome, welcome! Would love to hear what you have in mind. ♥ Nice to finally meet you, and congrats on your recent first mixpost here! Been rooting for ya and Twisted Systerz for a long while!
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THEME: Year #1, 2025 -- Free-for-All (Anything Goes!) SUGGESTED ARTWORK: COMING SOON! (done by OG G.O.A.T, The Coop ♥) PARTICIPANTS & TRACK-LIST (SO FAR!!): Emunator -- Resident Evil 4, "Save Room Theme" ☑️ Pixelseph -- Silent Hill 2, "Theme of Laura" Argle -- Donkey Kong 64, "Frantic Factory" Colorado Weeks -- Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, "Top Floor" Audiomancer -- Final Fantasy VI, "The Mines of Narshe" Troyificus -- Psycho Pinball, "Trick or Treat" The Vodoú Queen -- Original Song (Revamped), "Nella Muerta" & Blazeon, "Boss Battle Theme 1 & 2" or Chip n' Dale: Rescue Rangers 2, "Stage 5 - Haunted Warehouse Intro & Theme" + OFF, "Pepper Steak [Battle Theme]" ArikXu -- Miitopia, "Stage: Eerie Road" Dj Mokram -- Silent Hill: Homecoming, "Witchcraft" H36T -- Final Fantasy VI, "Mog's Theme" tibonev Ronald Poe (?) McFoley -- Super Castlevania IV, "Dracula's Theme" 100% ROEMER -- "Baby Shark" ☑️ The Coop -- Original Song (Revamped), "Revenant's Waltz" Unknown Pseudoartist -- Terranigma, "Boss Theme" Mr. Hu -- Animal Well (?) gravitygauntlet -- Golden Sun, "Jupiter Lighthouse" Lampje4life -- Blood, "Infuscomus" Seth Skoda 🌟 BIG COLLAB!??!! -- Sonic Adventure 2, "A Ghost's Pumpkin Soup (Pumpkin Hill)" ❓❔ LIST OF POTENTIAL COLLABORATORS / MIX & PRODUCTION HELPERS: @CosmicBartender -- Drums & Percussion @BlackCatBonifide [Bonnie Bogovich] -- Various Singing, Choir & Vocal Work 1) What is the PROMPT / REQUIREMENTS to join? The PROMPT is pretty simple: make a song or remix for Halloween! It can be an original song (fully written from scratch by the artist and their collaborators) OR a remix of what they'd like! It can be anything from film, to Anime, to something from a video game, classical music, etc. My only stipulation is, if the source material isn't something from, for example, a Horror-based game or a Slasher film, I'd like you to turn what you make *into* something either scary, dark, or melancholy. And when I say "spooky" that doesn't mean it has to be absolutely terrifying! It can be funny or Pop-icon as well! (e.g. think "Monster Mash" or "Somebody's Watching Me"). As long as whatever you produce embodies the 'Spirit of Halloween', it's fair game! And yes! You can collaborate with others if you want! I highly encourage people to do so! The REQUIREMENTS are, simply, to just learn and have fun! It doesn't matter if you're just starting out arranging or mixing music or are a 10-Year Super Elite Pro Veteran--EVERYONE IS WELCOME! :3 All I ask for is your time and dedication and heartfelt effort. ♥ If, however, anyone (for any reason) needs to drop-out, or something comes up and it proves to be difficult to continue, please just let me know, and we can try and sort something out! There's no shame if life comes up and you need to dip. I'd be forever grateful just for the fact that you're here and showed interest in doing this. 2) What kinds of MUSIC are we looking for? ANY GENRE is acceptable! ANY MEDIUM is acceptable! You wanna make an ~8 minute Spaghetti Western radio show-esque feature about creepy Ghost Cow Herders from Mars solely using an otamatone for your melody and harmony? Don't do that GO FOR IT! ;) I want people to go buck wild with their imaginations on this--BUT, within certain limits (see below). I love me some C H A O S, but gotta keep it focused primarily on the musicality of the piece. However, I don't have many qualms about the freedom to express. You can be as experimental or conservative as you would like with what you decide to make. Just, be mindful, that if your ULTIMATE GOAL or SIDE-HUSTLE is to maybe get your submission also in to the OCR Judges, or some other streaming / showcase venues, platforms, albums, etc, be aware of THEIR requirements to be able to meet their bars, as they may or may not be more strict and succinct in what they want than I am being here. I also do not mind 'covers', as long as they're not a 1:1 MIDI-rip of the source with just an updated sound palette, but just giving the bare-bones will not have your track make it on the OCR FrontPage or some other moderated places. I do encourage people to give a source more exploration, personal input and a bit of themselves into it if it's a remix, but the overall GOAL for this, here, is just to be a space for people to express, and for it to be basically as casual and free-form as Dyne and Coop's Christmas Album efforts. No muss, no fuss, ya dig? 3) What are the START & END DATES for the project? I am aiming to have the START of this be either the 1st of May or the 1st of June--whichever is more convenient for people, given the wide variety of on-going and upcoming album projects and compos I'm currently aware of that's happening in the community, and I am also a part of. The END, or the date I'd at least like for any FINAL SUBMISSIONS or EDITS to be sent to me by is the 18th - 21st of October--basically, A WEEK BEFORE the 31st (Halloween). This should theoretically give me enough time to pool everything together, get a set-list going, finalize any front/back album inserts and art, etc. Because it's 'unofficial', as well, there's no OCR paperwork involved, so the only details I'll need will be stated below! These dates would, give or take, be the same every year, so long as this keeps running every year. . . We'll see! Ultimately though, I do not want this to interfere with the Christmas album, or people's ability to participate in it, hence the length of time (as Coop usually makes a call-out for theirs around July / August). 4) What are the LIMITATIONS & EXPECTATIONS for said music you're making? The ONLY 2 things I am overly concerned about with this project are: a) the total time/length of each submission, and b) some quality assurance / control. With A): I would like submissions to be somewhere between 2 minutes and 30 seconds (MINIMUM) and 8:30 (MAXIMUM). Yes, to be honest, going the full Monty with a 10+ minute spoopy Free Bird moment would be awesome, but gotta take into account if the album has 10-20 songs on there, amongst other things. WAVs that are 8+ minutes get weighty, so I don't want to overload hosting sites or downloads with hefty files! Also, if I am mastering each song, it'll probably destroy me. I have never, ever mastered an entire LP or EP before, so songs on the shorter end (for now) will greatly help in that process; which leads to point B): quality control. There will be a bit here, simply to ensure whatever is submitted isn't chock-full of artifacts or clipping, or sounds off or broken. ANALOG HORROR and ATONAL AMBIENT are totally viable things to achieve with any song or remix, just gotta make sure these things are done with intent. Otherwise? Fair game. ♥ Also, songs with sourced or original lyrics, vocal loops, or SFX are allowable, I just need to know BEFOREHAND if any of it is explicit so I can detail that in the track header and liner notes. 5) Are we going to get FEEDBACK and/or BE EVALUATED? YES!--but only as long as the artist(s) want that. There is no official standing of a Quality Control Team or Interim Judges' Panel, so unless people directly ask for critique, there is no official evaluation channels. I will, however, softly encourage people to seek out help and guidance if they need it, or ask me or anyone else for advice or feedback if they so wish it. :) This is a total chill learning environment, and opportunity for people to try out new techniques in their composing, or mixing, new genres to dabble in, trying out some skill or FX, or taking up an instrument, etc. As long as the end-product is something YOU feel you can confidently present to QCT or a Judge or would release for yourself, then cool. You are also allowed to Workshop your planned submission as well!--so feel free to present it here in the forums, or in the proper Discord channels, or at a Sages' Weekly Office Hours Review! I don't mind songs being fairly transparent or spoiled, but would ask that the final version be reserved for the album(s)! 6) Are there any CO-DIRECTORS / ALBUM ARTISTS involved? Not at the moment...it's just lil' ol' me. . . ^_^; That said, if anyone would LIKE to be involved, please hit me up! Would love to chat, even if it's just to give me some pointers or assistance! Many and much of this is a first for me, inclusive of the cover artwork and formatting, so any help would be lovely. I have done quite a bit of fine art back in the day, and in recent times, the artwork for my amateur theater group's show posters and programs, but I can imagine there's major and minor differences for album covers and juggling music projects. So please, if you've got the knowledge and know-how, tell me! I also plan to try and coordinate much of this on the 'Community Remix Album Collaborations (CRAC)' Discord server & by Discord itself, so if people want my Discord details to add me, or an invite to the server, let me know. I don't mind if people rather get notices through the forum as well, if they're more comfortable here, but having the bulk line of communication be through a singular venue will help. 7) Is your own MASTERING required? How do we SEND the FINAL WIP? At the moment, I am split on this, because I'm willing to do the mastering myself (or with help) so that every submission for the albums are sound balanced across the board, as that would make the overall listening experience better. But, as said above, never done it with a massive group of varying songs in different genres, just my own for individual submissions. If I can get help with it, even if it's just experience-wise or with some advice or a program I can download for Reaper (my DAW of choice), I don't think I'd mind giving it a whirl. But for the meantime, I would say people just have to send me the usual standards: WAV, 44.1kHz in Stereo, 16 or 24-bit, -6.0 dB, triangle dithered (if necessary) pre-master, WITH NO HEAVY COMPRESSION OR A LIMITER ON THE MASTER BUS, except for any very soft compression and EQ, for warmth and tone and gluing the full track together. You can send me the FINAL WIP either on here via Private Messaging, on Discord via Direct Messaging, and/or (if I get a thread made for this in the CRAC server) directly to that channel. It can be in the form of an attachment OR a link to your Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. Details to also provide when submitting are as follows: Your Name & Collaborator Names / Pseudonyms, What You've Named Your Track; (e.g. 'Munching the Moocher' by The Vodoú Queen), The ORIGINAL Name of the Track & Source It's From (if it's a remix); (e.g. "Minnie the Moocher" by Cab Calloway), Any liner notes you want to add; (e.g. your inspirations, your reference material, thoughts on the process, feelings, etc.), and Contribution notes; (e.g. you did the mixing, So-and-So did 'x' and 'y', and Frankie Boi did 'z'). 8) Where and who are HOSTING this / how will the songs become available to download? I know Dyne and Coop have a dedicated website for the Unofficial Christmas Albums to host them year after year. I am...unsure where to host mine, or who can help with that. I'll have to take some time to try and figure out how to make my own domain or get one up and running and maintained. Bar that, I will have the songs on my Google Drive or Dropbox, along with the front & back cover art and, (if people want), an insert page about the artists, set-list info and the tracks in a zip folder for anyone to download, for free! There is also the idea of maybe hosting it through my NewGrounds profile, with the same requisite stuff on there, to try and pull more traction and traffic for people to download the content and listen to everyone's work. I'll do my best to throw around the links to the full album to as many places as I can, including here, to get as many eyes on it as I possibly can. Others are free to do the same once the project is wrapped up for the year! * ADDITIONAL NOTE / ADDENDUM: Please, feel free to utilize a track or two you have had "on the back-burner" for awhile now for this album! I highly encourage people to revisit old compo mixes that they want to upgrade or redo, or use never-before-released or publicized tracks that they've had kicking around on their hard drives for a bit, but never had the chance to or a good place to publish them! As long as they meet the above criteria, I do not mind! The more the merrier! :D This is a prime-time opportunity to present your kick-ass mixes for the world to see! If there are any doubts or concerns if your piece would be acceptable for this, just ask! We can work it out, I'm sure! For now, this post is mostly to see who would like to jump in on the fun! I can also try and open it up under the Community Album Discord channel as well, if I can. I've never...helmed a project of this size or caliber before when it comes to any music or artsy stuff, so please, bear with me while I try to coordinate things, but my DMs here on the forums and myself on Discord are always readily available to chat away or answer questions about this! Or, just reply to this forum post, and I'll respond ASAP! 🎃 Hope to see some old and new faces around! Thanks for reading! 🥰
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Howdy! :) 🦇 Some of y'all know who I am, but in case ya don't: 'ello, 'ello--the name's VQ. Bit nervous writing this up, but here goes! Many here (including myself) have participated in (or know of) @Dyne & @The Coop's lovingly done, yearly [Unofficial] OCR Christmas Album, and I'd like to try and implement / propose something similar for ALL HALLOWS' EVE! 🧡 Out of every holiday in a year, Halloween has always been my all-time favorite, and it's a shame to have noticed not many artists or communities hold much weight for that time of the year--outside of any compos that chime-in for it as one-offs--and I'd like to give the opportunity for music inspired by Halloween, or that present "spooky vibes" to be freely envisioned and showcased for that special date! :D Here's the deets!
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Klonoa or Einhänder Album
The Vodoú Queen replied to Huepow00 (DJ EAR)'s topic in Recruit & Collaborate!
I never played either game, but I would be willing to help with or participate in any/or of the two. :) I'm sure something from their OSTs would be cool to do. ♡ -
These are fucking bangers. I am glad I got to finally listen to them. Wonderful job to both teams. <3 Kinda funny how I can directly distinguish who is in what team, just based on the sound palettes, techniques used and their individualistic motifs from previous work of theirs!! It's a highlight to hear everyone's hearts and passions and skills mingle together to make something this unique, and both series' OSTs are pretty crazy and gives such a weird, lively, and wide variety of possibilities to the imagination on arranging a remix! So, kudos to the series selection, source choices and the end results! Look forward to more, and remember, no matter the result, these are fire and I was thrilled listening to each and every one of them (several times over.) :)
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OCR04766 - Final Fantasy V "Dawn of the Chosen"
The Vodoú Queen replied to Liontamer's topic in ReMix Reviews & Comments
Childhood nostalgia at its finest and distilled into something simply opulent, lovely, and beautiful. Great work, you two. ♡ -
Game Set Mash!! 3 - Streets of Rage vs. Etrian Odyssey
The Vodoú Queen replied to DarkeSword's topic in Competitions
Just a heads up I won't be able to do this or participate for the foreseeable future. Need to back down and out for personal reasons. I am sorry guys. I hope this does happen soon and you all have fun with it. ♥ I look forward to voting on your creative mash-ups, at least. :) -
Can't sleep. . . Dove back into it after the Office Hours and was informed after around the 3 minute mark, there were 5-7 instances of funky sounding notes that were souring spots, primarily in conflict with the Builder 8 source and the key change. Please can I get a quadruple check on this? I stripped it back down to the raw arrangement to try and functionally fix any MIDI notes and adjust any live takes via semitone pitch changes in Reaper. ...IDK if I fixed every instance, but I believe I did... ...I sometimes just don't trust my ears in these problems, but it isn't for lack of trying. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6rdsozkxrhqe5lpytv6ti/VQ-Shinobi-III-Rise-of-the-Robots-We-Built-an-Edifice-WIP-FIXED-NOTES.mp3?rlkey=sngy7j3ea4y7ymfv3vqw80b43&st=qyb62gzk&dl=0 I'd appreciate the extra ears to inform me either way, and if there's still issues, timestamps would be helpful. Thank you. . .
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Need a vibe check, haha. Did a lot of work fixing this track, primarily eradicating dissonance and clashing / fuzziness due to too much shit going on in a single section, so I've been ripping unnecessary parts away, refitting/re-engaging others, re-writing the entire drumline and bass from scratch and with better loop samples that fit rhythmically with supporting the beat and low-end, etc. Took a lot of time and care in analyzing the previous rejection decision, absorbing what Josh, Hemo and Seph said in a previous Office Hours, and employing some needed, professional outside help and discussion on the track. Doing my best to try and write-up my own drums and beats with one-shot samples, drum machines or MIDI, rather than relying so much on loops that aren't hand-crafted. I hope it's a ton more feasible now and capable of being Panel-worthy. Still being mixed insofar as fine-tuning but I've reworked the entire mixing and processing FX and automation lanes. It's about 90% done. No side-chain or mid-side...uh...anything yet, but I had to rip them out and do them from scratch and didn't have time before Office Hours today. D: VQ - Shinobi III & Rise of the Robots - We Built an Edifice WIP (NEW).mp3
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Game Set Mash!! 3 - Streets of Rage vs. Etrian Odyssey
The Vodoú Queen replied to DarkeSword's topic in Competitions
Hey. It's a consideration, and depends on how much of my surmounting work-load on current albums I can successfully navigate and swim through between August and September (not to mention doing theater work for an Oct/Nov show.) If people would like me onboard or would like whatever input I can put towards it / collaborate with me, let me know either here or in Discord and I'll join--more learning experience besides. :) -
An OverClocked Christmas v.XVIII
The Vodoú Queen replied to The Coop's topic in Recruit & Collaborate!
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Hey all. This is gonna be relatively quick, because I wasn't sure if I'd present it or try to rework it again yet, but. . . SUBMITTED, MASTERED SONG: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ixEWhVdIC-Xj1y5YevPlgwfW9hTDTgYF/view?usp=sharing ORIGINAL DECISION: SOURCE TRACKS: Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master - "Inner Darkside" Rise of the Robots - "Prime 8 / The Builder's Stage" REFERENCE TRACKS: The Glitch Mob (Aesthetics / Vibe / Asian & Ethnic Influences) Mike Oldfield - "Tubular Bells (Theme from 'The Exorcist')" 'Theme from the X-Files' I uhm...don't entirely know what to do to resolve the critique points for this track arrangement-wise. *Mixing* I might be able to grasp on, but the basses are hell, and I need to find a way to rhythmically marry the two sources together better? Or--at the very least--the main issues I took from it are: 1) too much going on that sounds fuzzy, and 2) there's not enough variation on the main motif. . .and I guess the sources are very strange / weird / wack...etc. Any comments or questions or concerns would be great to discuss here and ask. ♥ I'm open to any ideas on how to redress this or...whatever. I'd hope maybe the way the song is built is alright, and maybe it's just the elements within in that are problematic and can be resolved for the better.
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Hey. Mastered and Unmastered mp3 versions of both of these, in the context of seeing if anyone has anymore to add for the final stretch. ♥ ...Think Snowy Lambcow is just as tired of seeing me as I am of it. Feels like I'm crawling with a broken spine after dat boi trampled me on the way to the finish line... But I ain't frozen yet. I didn't hear no bell. ;) So, yeah. Any final pearls of wisdom or word of advice or cautionary tale on these before I ship it back into the lion's den would be immensely helpful, thank you so much. Time to crash out in the meantime, rofl. UNMASTERED: VQ - Sorrowful Bellows (UNMASTERED) MP3.mp3 MASTERED: VQ - Sorrowful Bellows (MASTERED) MP3.mp3
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I am currently working on the mastering for this as well. Dunno how to really effectively master orchestra-centric pieces, but I can damn sure try and use some new techs I've learned for sub-processing and organization in REAPER to experiment on / with. So... I can have a chat about either end of it, be it mixing or mastering. I think the arrangement is pretty much solid and finalized because I had taken the advice during a previous Office Hours WIP Review session at face-value, to modify MIDI so that notes didn't clash, and I have cut some harmonies and countermelodies that I wrote myself--that I really did love in the piece, and out-of-context or isolated, worked in certain situations; but because I couldn't get them to work with everything else going on (muddying up support parts and taking away from focus / front-end parts) I...had no other choice. Logic-brain / emotional-disconnect prevailed. It was for the betterment of the piece, in the end, so folks who commented on that and the disparity caused by over-complicated part-writing were, indeed, correct all along. I'm saying this to prove the point I am listening, and to apologize for stubbornness and flying too close to the sun / being too married to some of what I had wrote. It's a huge amount time/frustrations/emotions sunk, clipped, and gone now, but the raw MIDI (meta-)data is around somewhere, probably, and I learned some stuff about how to compose for left vs right hand piano concerto. :) At least there's a silver lining to be had.
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As promised, I said I would update things here...instead of bombarding Discord #Workshop threads like a madwoman. xD As it currently stands, this is probably my last iteration on the song, fully done now and updated with everyone's kind feedback in mind and actioned--inclusive of the old critique from the past rejection. It is unmastered, and I'm sliding it in here to see if The Sages or @Dj Mokram or @Emunator has any further ideas to glint. More-so, I think...I'm just trying to catch people for a final vibe-check (in case my ears are shot), and see if it's ready for the Panel again, regardless of result. Dunno how to necessarily master it, but I mixed it to the fullest extent I could after doing a lot of research and video watching on orchestral composition/arrangements (and practice with other work), and limiting/reassessing the reference scope to primarily TSO with hints of Tchaikovsky and Chopin. I'm being hopeful...and trying to find and instill the confidence in my solo projects to try again. As most people are aware, I've been hammering at this in-between nonsense for a good long while throughout the process since the reject. I hope...I've compressed the lump of coal into an unprocessed diamond, and now have given it the cut and polish to push it over the goal-line. :) VQ - Sorrowful Bellows WIP (UNMASTERED).mp3
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Also, FWIW, you are right in some regard on the length alone that it was too much of a slow-roll and overambitious to a fault. ...I don't know. It was a darling I wasn't willing to kill, considering some background circumstances / context behind this remix from the album itself that hits pretty close to home. ...It was a vision indeed, but not without its flaws. I'll just do better next time.
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Hey there. That's a fair take, and I understand if and when people have a strong reaction to a beloved song or OST of theirs, and SeeDs/FFVIII is no exception. I'm...a bit upset by this, honestly, but you respectively are entitled to your opinion and feelings, and I'm sure you won't be the first or last in this regard. My music--as is obvious even on the Judges' Panel--is seemingly very...divisive...be it because of how I went about producing and mixing it or the composition itself. At the time, I was pretty chuffed and proud of this remix...given when it happened, the work it took, and the final result...but I'd be remiss to say that this amongst other things kind of hits me in a way where currently I have to disassociate my emotions from my logic brain...and all I can say is this: Thank you for your honesty in the end, and all I can do is apologize that this version of the Extreme doesn't resonate with you. Quite a few of my remixes, even if or when they make it past the bar, has that issue. Perhaps it's "growing pains", as people call it. This track was a first for many things for me: 100+ track mixing, in-depth vocal mixing that isn't just ad libs here or there or chopped loops, rapping to my own musical shit, etc. By no means is any of this an excuse to have what may in fact be a...less-than-stellar remix, and people will say I'm being harsh on myself in behind your retuned review, but I digress. It is what it is. ...I'm unsure if I'll ever come back to this and do a re-cut / deep-cut and change it drastically as I get better at this game, but again, I'm very sorry to you and anybody else who just couldn't or didn't vibe with this. I chose this track and the other sources I sewed into it because they, too, deeply resonated with me, as both a casual listener and as an artist. FF8 in particular is the dark horse / black sheep and underrated game of the series, and I chose SeeDs as my first jumping off point because at the time I felt brave enough to do so and I like the game and OST, despite its flaws, and equally my own flaws and trepidation to dare try. I...don't know. Be that as it may, I'm glad I did, I'm sad it didn't work for you, and I'll...just have to try harder and better next time. I, and I'm sure the rest of us here, appreciate your hard work in reviewing our tracks and being real with yourself in this instance to just tell it like it is to me. I'd rather have a genuine reaction than a falsehood to my work. People doubting it and me are inevitable and I'll just...try again to pick up the pieces and continue onward. I'm not letting another creative writing or art pursuit flop happen again. . . This is about as genuine and positive I can be in this moment in response to ya. . . :) And it's not a reflection on you, but on myself in how poorly I look at my OWN work and person. Introspection is a bitch. Thanks again. I'll take all of your points and do what I can with them on future projects or further revisions to past ones. Take care of yourself and speak soon. o/