DragonFireKai

Any bets on what tommarow may bring? I'm hoping for CoD4.

Ok, here we go. Inevitably, almost every serious fight will wind up on the ground. If it doesn't, one combatant was absurdly overmatched. Once the fight has gone to the ground, BJJ is the style that puts you in the best position to win the fight at that stage. While brute strength and size never hurts to have, there are plenty of techniques from any of the primary GFT positions that a person of much smaller size can use leverage to tear a less experienced but larger fighter apart. When dealing with multiple opponents, that's why you have a striking art to supplement you. And in that situation, there are still some GFT precepts that are extremely useful. Standing locks will let you control an opponents position without giving up your vertical base, standing blood chokes will let you incapacitate your opponents quickly without losing your vertical base. Intentionally taking a fight to ground when outnumbered isn't a bright idea, but if it does go that way, you need to be prepared to deal with that, because it's likely to happen. Violence of action is a fundamental of army combatives. You can scare a combatant from fighting you. It depends on the person, but usually, if you can quickly and violently dispatch an attacker, further attacks are discouraged. This can be accomplished through striking or grappling. If you shoot a two leg takedown onto a hard surface and leave someone with their brain leaking onto the pavement, or break a guy's leg at the knee with a power angle kick, the other attackers will think twice about continuing their attack, especially if they're untrained civillians. You can come up with all sorts of doomsday scenarios, maybe once I apply a rear naked choke to a guy his friend leaps from the rafters ninja style and decapitates me. Hey, it could happen. But when you're actually in combat, Speed, Violence of Action, and Situational Awareness are paramount. You can reduce the effectiveness of an opponents superior numbers through good spatial awareness and footwork. Don't allow yourself to be surrounded, and maintain a clear avenue of retreat. Something might happen that you couldn't foresee, but in that case, you're screwed regardless, but if your goal is to learn the best combination of styles to allow you the best chance of incapacitating your opponents, then GJJ with Muay Thai and American Boxing is the way to go. Why don't you ask your friends overseas what the Army teaches them for hand to hand combat? It's exactly what I've been telling you, because it's what the Army has found to be most effective.

Even off in Ar-Kansas, as Les Miles so eloquently called it, you're about 1,500 miles closer than us. Something needs to happen on the West Coast, the closest we've had was OSU and Cal putting on the two greatest halftime shows in history.

Could be either. Disorientation is more prevelent with the knockout reflex, when the head gets twisted a few degrees farther than it's supposed to. But a good shot to the carotid artery could have similar results.

Tim Buckley has an interesting take on this.

Yeah, I quoted the wrong post. I was taking issue with this comment. The prevelent MMA style, GJJ with a supplemental striking art is not just a practical self defense art, it's the best self defense art.

Army combatives are rooted in Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, Escrima, and American boxing. The Army overhauled its hand to hand combat methodology in 2002 after exhaustive research regarding hand to hand combat in a non sport environment, i.e. The battlefield. Their study found that over 75% of all hand to hand combat winds up on the ground. They detirmined that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is the most effective style to use in a ground fighting situation. The study was then expanded to include the stand up portion of a fight. They found that Muay Thai is the most damaging striking art from the lower body, and that American Boxing is the most damaging striking art from the upper body, and fosters the best Spatial Awareness. The study was then expanded to include combat with field expedient melee weapons, Knives, Pipes, Rifles, E-Tools, and others, and they found that Escrima was the most effective hand weapon style. They then compiled these styles into the MAC GFT courses. In a hand to hand combat fight to the death, those are the best styles at their various niches. The outcome depends on respective skill level, physical conditioning, and luck, but those 4 styles as a base will give you the best chance to incapacitate your opponent. Read the PDF of the FM 3-25.150 that I posted earlier. It lays out the most effective blood chokes to use.

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Modern Army Combatives have the same base as any good MMA Artist, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Every MMA fighter uses GJJ as a base ground style, and supplement it with a stand up game. MAC GFT courses are essentially a MMA school where the fighting is rooted in Muay Thai and American Boxing on the upright side. It's very similar to Tito Ortiz and Tim Sylvia's fighting style.

Not Likely. I'm busy with classes now, and there are other army schools that I want to attend.

I haven't had to use anything outside of a few blood chokes to deal with belligerent drunks. Let's put it this way, the Army arranges for mandatory paid leave for recovery when you get a slot in the level four school. They assume you're going to be so beat up that you won't be able to do your job right away.

4, but most soldiers don't go past level 1.

National Guard. GFT is an acronym for Ground Fighting Techniques. It's a combination of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, and Escrima as laid out in the fm 3-25.150.

Level Two Army GFT.

That's what I'm hoping for, but all I know is that something rips the head off the Statue of Liberty and chucks it onto Broadway. That's all kinds of badass.

Is there anyone else here who thinks this movie has a ton of potential?

www.joystiq.com/2007/11/26/some-punctuation-riffs-on-yahtzees-art-of-theft Some doesn't like Yahtzee.

Hmmmm... Will Will Smith do better than Charlton Heston? I don't know...

I would like to extend my condolences. Reuben was an exceptionally talented individual, who's art has influenced the lives of many people. The world is a lesser place without him. His memory will live on through his music, and in the hearts of everyone who listens to it.

One thing to consider doing is to set up a a memorial page on the site, nt only for Reuben, but for Avien and Charles Blachly, and any other prominent member of the community who passes away. You could include a link to the obit, then a rundown on the contributions that they made to the site, a link to their work if they were a remixer.

I would just feel safer if there was oversight to make sure something innapropriate didn't get through. Just opening up Direct floodgates between a greiving family and everyone who has access to this site doesn't seem very smart to me.

DJP, Zirc, Pixie, etc. I believe it was Zircon who said that 90% of the OCR staff lives on the East Coast.

Well, here's my two cents on the idea of a tribute. I think the idea of compiling the work he did on the various sites we know onto a single disc for his family is a fantastic idea. As for the idea of a tribute DVD, I think the idea of putting together some sort of Video Game music video or Reuben Kee slide show is a little off. My unit has dealt with death on several occasions, thankfully not as many as some though. What we've discovered is that blitzing the people the departed leaves behind with pictures of him is a brutal experience. It reminds them of what they lost, and especially for the first 14 days, what's most important isn't to remind them of what they lost, it's to let them know that they aren't alone, and that the person who passed away had a positive impact. If we want to put together a true Rueben Kee tribute, I'm all for it, but right now, we need to consider the impact that would have on his family. My suggestion would be to have the members of the community record an adio, visual, or text message for the family describing how Reuben's work touched their lives, keep it short, between 20-30 seconds or 40-50 words, and have the East Coast OCR Clique compile them. That way we can let his family and friends know that he influenced many people world wide, without giving them harsh reminders of Kee's passing away while they're still in the process of grieving.

Well, seeing the tragedy that took away Rueben Kee far too soon, I was wanting to create a sig to honor his memory, unfortunately, my Photoshop skills are not up to the task. Could someone help me out here?

My condolences to his family. This is a real shame, he was a great talent.