Dhsu Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Haha, there needs to be a way to make that a stage setting. "Auto-taunt during Fire Emblem song: ON/OFF" Just wish there were more strategic use of "Falcon PAUNCH" in time to the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 too bad he is absolutely AWFUL in brawl for those who dont want to listen to atma cause well its atma: it is true that he is different. with the new physics engine falcon is just weird. very hard to hit with the knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 with the brawl physics faster characters do not nearly have the advantage they used to falcons moves are really weak and as arek said hitting with the knee is much more difficult than it should be gdorf is much better even though hes a ton slower his moves are MEAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Oh hey, how's Game and Watch now? Was he improved or de-proved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 improved let me put emphasis on this IMPROVED i love how g&w is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 improvedlet me put emphasis on this IMPROVED i love how g&w is now How exactly, if you don't mind me asking? G&W was one of my favorite characters in Melee, even though I completely sucked as him, he was still fun to play as for shits and giggles. So I'm a bit happy now that he's apparently an actual good character, not just a "oh boy I hit someone with a turtle and a key and a torch how wacky" character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 -His up b recovery now has a parachute similar to peaches when he falls down -His priority changed for the better *imho* -His neutral a in the air changed from opening the chute to tossing a fishbowl. At first I hate this, but when I got used to it, I found that that fucker is awesome for chaining. -*insert other various changes here* the only thing I don't like is that is tilt down a on the ground no longer launches them up in the air to set you up for a combo, so get used to not using it so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 -His up b recovery now has a parachute similar to peaches when he falls down-His priority changed for the better *imho* -His neutral a in the air changed from opening the chute to tossing a fishbowl. At first I hate this, but when I got used to it, I found that that fucker is awesome for chaining. -*insert other various changes here* the only thing I don't like is that is tilt down a on the ground no longer launches them up in the air to set you up for a combo, so get used to not using it so much Aw...if there's any one thing that Game and Watch was overpowered with, it was his down tilt. Oh well. I can get used to it, I suppose, given these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dang, Gaymanwatch's neutral air was my favorite move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkjing Donuts Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 does he still toss bacon he better still toss bacon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Dang, Gaymanwatch's neutral air was my favorite move. I thought I was the only person who heard the crowd/announcer say that. does he still toss baconhe better still toss bacon From what I've seen, I believe he does, except they added more black sillouhetted meat stuffs (like chicken legs.) I don't think it makes a difference though, someone else needs to confirm this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninymouse Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I've seen the chicken legs at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SNRu3PyzOY Four way Game and Watch action on the new Flat Zone stage. Which looks about twelve badillion times better than Melees, because there's no more FALLING TOOLS and the stage isn't stupid small and you can't die from JUMPING TOO HIGH. Geh. Edit: Actually, those lion tamer guys look pretty annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 What? G&W NEVER tossed bacon. The shape of whatever comes out of the pan is clearly NOT bacon. It was always debated as pancakes or sausages. I have Brawl on right now and closing examining all the different things coming out of his pan, I noticed chained sausages, fish (not chicken drumsticks though I can see how one could think them as chicken drumsticks), and pancakes (too oddly shaped to be one big sausage... could just be large slabs of meat). Also, yes G&W has been improved significantly. His improvements + the new balancing makes him a force to be reckoned with. The improvements mentioned barely scratch the surface. -His up b recovery now has a parachute similar to peaches when he falls down -His priority changed for the better *imho* -His neutral a in the air changed from opening the chute to tossing a fishbowl. At first I hate this, but when I got used to it, I found that that fucker is awesome for chaining. -*insert other various changes here* the only thing I don't like is that is tilt down a on the ground no longer launches them up in the air to set you up for a combo, so get used to not using it so much His Up+B recovery does have a parachute now which allows him to float to the ground. What's insane about this is that after the insane height he gets from Up+B, he gets to cover horizontal ground with the float from the parachute. Also he can cancel out of the parachute and attack on the way down. Most great Up+B moves don't allow you to attack afterwards. G&W's allows you to have this advantage. I didn't notice his priority changing much from Melee. He already had high priority then. What G&W got beefed up in mostly was range and knock back. Fishbowl neutral air is a good move. Not effective for killing like the parachute in Melee but it covers a lot of room and gives multiple hits. If you want a move that hits a lot with nice knockback on the last hit, his back air attack, the turtle, is a good bet. It eats up shields. As for the down tilt A manhole move it's still just as good. It's not used for pop-ups now, but in Brawl I see that as a positive. In Brawl, don't even count on doing air juggles so the lack of pop up is good. What makes down tilt A a good move now is it's mostly a lagless horizontal knock back move. They also made the manhole even BIGGER. The range on it is just nuts. And my favorite thing about G&W is now is that his up air move, the one where he blows air upwards, actually blows people upward. You can delay someone's aerial drop attack with this thing. It's hilarious. There are a couple other finer points to G&W but I won't get into it or you all might turn into ridiculously good G&W players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 Flatzone 2 is just flat out awesome. Stage music is beautiful, stage effects aren't annoying, and it is pretty *at least to me*. Also, ya, the frying pan now tosses out drum sticks and other various food items along with the bacon/pancakes. EDIT: Haha, gt. I have been practicing a lot with G&W and there are a lot of different set ups I can do that you couldn't in melee. I love G&W so much. He is definitely my alt if I want to have a good time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSammyG Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 What? G&W NEVER tossed bacon. The shape of whatever comes out of the pan is clearly NOT bacon. No. You're simply wrong here. When was the last time you had an s-shaped sausage, or pancake for that matter? Came and Watch is obviously cooking bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 it always looked like flapjacks to me either way it looks good and im hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 No. You're simply wrong here. When was the last time you had an s-shaped sausage, or pancake for that matter? Came and Watch is obviously cooking bacon. S-Shaped Sausage: When they are chained, which is the case in Brawl. Pancake: Take one off the plate and bend it into an S. Not very hard is it? It's not like they are hard to shape, especially in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 S-Shaped Sausage: When they are chained, which is the case in Brawl.Pancake: Take one off the plate and bend it into an S. Not very hard is it? It's not like they are hard to shape, especially in the air. also have you hurled a flapjack in the air to flip them? i have seen someone do that and they dont stay straight and flat in the air they be flapjacks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I can also post pictures of what's coming out of his pan for you if you would like to point out where the bacon is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Oh hey quick question, do Captain Falcon and Shiek still do that weird thing when they smash forward with items? Like Falcon kinda stabbing then bringing the item up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It doesn't matter what it looks like, it's still bacon. IT WILL SET YOU ON FIRE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum4n After All Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Its chorizo con huevos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steben Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 What? G&W NEVER tossed bacon. The shape of whatever comes out of the pan is clearly NOT bacon. It was always debated as pancakes or sausages. I used to think it was bacon. But if you check one of the G&W trophies in Melee, you'll find that they are actually sausages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 gw is very nice in brawl (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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