Sobou Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I finally got it like 6 hours ago, and I'm now starting up the Waterway: I just got Tellah in my party, and I'm backtracking for money and equipment for him. This remake is absolutely incredible, and I love all the extra small things they added in like Whyt, Auto-Battle mode, and the [insert Job]ingway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Going to get this as soon as I get back to my home town. Can't wait. I've only played a bit off FFIV Advance so essentially this will be a new experience for me. Question: is "you spoony bard" still in and is it voiced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Yes and no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFrost Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 so yeah...the dark elf keeps kicking my ass. can't seem to beat him : / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Haste and Berserk Yang, slow down the elf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardicKnowledge Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Cast Silence on his first form also. That plus Firaga on the 2nd form should make it an easy win. (Took me a while to realize you could mute him ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Took me a while to realize you could mute him. I think this is the case for most people. Honestly, the way that support spells usually fail in every FF game has pretty much made me ignore them altogether, but in FFIV DS they're actually useful, and that's another thing I appreciate about the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 God some of the counterattacks these bosses have are driving me crazy. I finally figured out how to avoid Scarmiglione's absolutely crazy status onslaught after going almost the whole fight using nothing but potions, and when I got to Cagnazzo his nasty habit of silencing everything that moves combined with the oh-so-frequent target-all Slow spells almost got me Tsunami'd a couple of times. About to head into the Dark Elf fight now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_T_Zeratul Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The Dark Elf is... Difficult. Got through the first phase of the fight, then he turned into that serpent thing and used an attack that did about 600 damage to everyone, then started doing melee hits for 800+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Wow, for all the people saying they have problems with the Dark Elf, I found him ridiculously easy. The first phase is nothing (as others have said, cast Silence and he can't do much to you) but the key is to draw it out long enough to prepare yourself for the second phase. I made sure everyone had Haste so they could act before the Dragon could, and I pumped up Yang with Focus (I made sure he had the fire-based claws on, because for some reason I still remember all the bosses' weaknesses by heart) while Cid and Cecil whittle him down. Once he transforms, unleash Yang's charged attack and have Tellah cast Firaga. If the Dragon isn't already dead, Cecil and Cid's regular attacks (with Cecil's holy paladin sword and Cid's mythril hammer) should be enough to do it. The Tower of Zot, on the other hand, is handing mine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majin GeoDooD Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The only boss I ever had a problem with was Mom Bomb, and that's only because I forgot to defend before she blew up. All the other bosses have been a piece of cake with the proper strategy. Just earlier today I beat Rubicante and he didn't give me a single problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The only boss I ever had a problem with was Mom Bomb, and that's only because I forgot to defend before she blew up. This pissed me off more than anything. I was like, seriously? If you don't defend it basically auto-wipes your party? I mean, I figured the warning was to heal up or something, not defend now or you will take a quadrillion times more damage than you should. Gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 This pissed me off more than anything. I was like, seriously? If you don't defend it basically auto-wipes your party? I mean, I figured the warning was to heal up or something, not defend now or you will take a quadrillion times more damage than you should. Gay. I actually loled hard when I got wiped out. I should have been angry and pissed off but... I just loled real hard... Got back there and kicked ass right after though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Wait 'til you guys get to Leviathan. That'll make you lol. Fucker had an attack that does around 2k to each party member, and he used it a lot. He was also really fast. I felt good when I beat him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilff2 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 This is a great remake so far. I really enjoy the difficulty. I actually got killed during the fabul assault due to forgetting to heal regularly(and it was the last fight too...) Barbariccia was tough, but I love using slow/protect/shell so much that it made the battle much easier. Currently heading for Bab-il for first time. Decided to level for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I love customizing Whyt(or Ganzen as mine is called). I've got him ninja-spec'd with all his stats at max. I love these mini-games as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Barbariccia was tough, but I love using slow/protect/shell so much that it made the battle much easier. I don't understand this. Just don't attack her so much and she's probably the easiest boss this side of the Magus Sisters (broken AI lol). Basically, Haste Yang and keep him using Focus until he's fully charged then hit her whenever she's unravelled, have Kain Jump as necessary, and leave everyone else defending/healing. She goes down in four or five hits from Yang and barely counters, so at most you have to be careful of an occasional Tornado or whatever. Seriously, once I figured out Yang with 3 Focuses and an appropriate elemental claw does more damage than attacking four times and has the added benefit of only actually touching the enemy once, all these bosses with overpowered counterattacks became easier than a lot of random encounters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaki-LEGEND.sys Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Lol... The Magus Sisters were retarded easy. I was almost in disbelief. They were just as easy if not more so than the original Japanese SNES version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupernikus Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The Dark Elf is... Difficult. Got through the first phase of the fight, then he turned into that serpent thing and used an attack that did about 600 damage to everyone, then started doing melee hits for 800+. Cant you just tornado(or whatever that spell was) the dark elf's second form still? take it down to 1 health and then wack it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The Dark Elf was only hard when you didn't prepare earlier on before it morphed. What you'd want to do is to have Cecil cast Protect asap and Tellah Shell. Soon after Slow then haste on Yang/Cecil/Tellah. I can't help but think of Cid as a joke member of the group Beyond that just keep having Cecil stick to basic healing while Tellah/Yang and Cid wail on the cheap asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagist Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I can't help but think of Cid as a joke member of the group Not accounting for elemental weaknesses, Cid was my heaviest hitter in the Tower of Zot. If he had more options for equipment and had as much HP as Cecil and Yang I would probably say he was the best at that point in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Using "Upgrade" on Cid's weapon and give it fire properties then he actually can help against the Dark Elf. But yeah he isn't the greatest character. At least he has higher HP than Kain at the same level. Just a glorified punching bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwaltzvald Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not accounting for elemental weaknesses, Cid was my heaviest hitter in the Tower of Zot. If he had more options for equipment and had as much HP as Cecil and Yang I would probably say he was the best at that point in the game. I meant in just a comical way. Cid has his merits of course but still I can't help but think of him as a joke character. Almost like how in Persona 3/FES there were joke weapons. A toy baseball bat with spikes is one of the most powerful weapons in the game, For goodness sake SOCK PUPPETS were one of the most powerful glove/boxing weapons in the game. :lol: In Cid's case, he just makes me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 To start off, this post has some spoilers, so don't read if you haven't played FFIV before... I'm just sad that they made it so that when Cecil first becomes a paladin, you could no longer just kill off all your temporary characters and then level Cecil to 50-75, and then have all of your permanent characters come in at your level (except for edge, he always comes in at lvl 20). I found it mildly hilarious when my brother leveled Cecil up to 75 only to find that Yang came back at only level 20-ish. Of course I suppose that being level 75 a quarter way through the game ruins some of the fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleck Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Of course I suppose that being level 75 a quarter way through the game ruins some of the fun... If grinding in a single player game so you can beat the next boss and move the damn story along is your idea of fun, there is something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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