EC2151 Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 The funny part is that in 3 weeks OCR is going to have about 600 new Chrono Trigger remix submissions featuring the exact same orchestral samples. And it shall be funny and glorious indeed. My goodness, that sounds indeed gloriously hilarious. I just wanted to mess around with my own orchestral experiments (Mssr. Noveau Musique over here), but the thought finally dawned on me. Oh lordy how I laughed. As for errors, I did hear this: I'm currently running Windows 7 64bit. But i tried the 64 bit version ( which crashed several times ). And i though, oh well try the 32 bit. But none of them work! I keep getting the same Error message: Error 1721. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A program required for this installation to complete could not run. I really wanted to try it out.. Any help? "Try Microsoft App Compatibility Kit and "lie" to the installation of EWQL that you have Win XP SP2." Other than that, I hear it's been working swimmingly. Also, as for the reverb, even the install says "You might want to turn the reverb off for this" or something. I still need to actually try this; I installed it myself but due to the holidays, haven't had access to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-kore/holiday-selection-2009/?page=1235 Oh yeah and Kontakt/Kore is releasing a bunch of free shit. Me-e-e-e-errry Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulinEther Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 huzzah part 2. haven't even tried the EWQL stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Meh, there wasn't as much as I expected... just some strings and brass, and a triangle and some chimey sounds. That totals 12 instruments... I am disappointed. No percussion, either. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 The funny part is that in 3 weeks OCR is going to have about 600 new Chrono Trigger remix submissions featuring the exact same orchestral samples. And it shall be funny and glorious indeed. Not if you're a judge, it won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteo Xavier Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Meh, there wasn't as much as I expected... just some strings and brass, and a triangle and some chimey sounds.That totals 12 instruments... I am disappointed. No percussion, either. xD You gotta make the best with what you got, and you got it for free. Get creative and you can do some awesome shit with strings, brass and chimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowStorm Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Free is free, I don't care if I ger 12 instruments or 1200 of 'em. Thanks for the heads up, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustin Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 The funny part is that in 3 weeks OCR is going to have about 600 new Chrono Trigger remix submissions featuring the exact same orchestral samples. And it shall be funny and glorious indeed. hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowStorm Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 The funny part is that in 3 weeks OCR is going to have about 600 new Chrono Trigger remix submissions featuring the exact same orchestral samples. And it shall be funny and glorious indeed. Do I smell a April Fools prank in the works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-RoN Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I already have Colossus and was dissappointed with compatibility between Vista and Windows 7. Hope this doesn't do the same thing, or I'm forwarding the link and $600 Canadian worth of samples to my buddy's home studio with Win XP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince uf Darkness Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Do you guys know if this uses the PLAY Engine? I already have Symphonic Orchestra in Gold and Platinum editions, but I've been looking at checking out Stormdrum 2.0, which uses the PLAY engine. However, I've heard some bad things about it and it would be nice if I can demo PLAY before I buy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLiNd Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Yea this is a sweet happy thing. I have 4 play libraries and they were NOT ready for mass release when I bought them but they have fixed all the issues I was having with it, and its very solid now. In the next few months they will have network support working so you can build a farm of audio processing machines to run massive libraries in play. It's good stuff and free is always awesome, especially christmas presents <3<3 http://www.blind-music.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-kore/holiday-selection-2009/?page=1235Wow, finally. I was beginning to wonder why they stuck a "Volume 1" in the title of the first compilation if there wasn't going to be a second one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC2151 Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 Meh, there wasn't as much as I expected... just some strings and brass, and a triangle and some chimey sounds.That totals 12 instruments... I am disappointed. No percussion, either. xD You forgot one part... 12 'free' instruments. I've been needing a good brass sound anyway (squidfont's brass SUCKS a lot of the time. At least for trumpets.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 You forgot one part...12 'free' instruments. I've been needing a good brass sound anyway (squidfont's brass SUCKS a lot of the time. At least for trumpets.) I'm not complaining that they didn't give more, I'm just complaining that they called it a "symphonic orchestra" when it's... uh... kinda... not? It's a joke, anyway. I've no need for any more, I have what I need (I have squidfont and synergigs which have good percussion and woodwinds...), so a big THANKS to EastWest for the strings and brass. Now all I need is a computer that can handle the samples... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 You can do far better than squidfont with the full version of EWQLSO. Silly soundfonts just aren't gonna give you the options you need to make your orchestral instruments sound realistic. That is, unless you REALLY know what you're doing. I applaud the man than can create a realistic sounding orchestra with squidfont, but I don't think it's possible, at least, not with an INSANE amount of tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 You can do far better than squidfont with the full version of EWQLSO.Silly soundfonts just aren't gonna give you the options you need to make your orchestral instruments sound realistic. That is, unless you REALLY know what you're doing. I applaud the man than can create a realistic sounding orchestra with squidfont, but I don't think it's possible, at least, not with an INSANE amount of tweaking. All of this is true, but if you know what you're doing, you can make it so no one can tell the difference between squidfont and EWQLSO. My point is, you don't need to spend a thousand dollars EWQLSO Gold to get a realistic orchestra. It's NOT the only option. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I'm honestly not sure if it's even possible to make something like squidfont reach the capabilities of something like EWQLSO just because there's far less options for tweaking. The original recordings can make a difference too, but I'd have to compare both to make judgments on that. The way I could see it being possible is if there's like, say, a bunch of VSTs out there that emulate the tweaking options of EWQLSO. Namely everything depicted here. So MAYBE squidfont can do it, but it'd take a ton of tweaking. I wish I knew for sure, actually. Has anyone here successfully performed such a task? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Awesome stuff, and those who complain about free things should never get anything free again. Merry Christmas to all! Thanks for the heads up, I'd miss so many deals if it wasn't for OCR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I'm honestly not sure if it's even possible to make something like squidfont reach the capabilities of something like EWQLSO just because there's far less options for tweaking. The original recordings can make a difference too, but I'd have to compare both to make judgments on that.The way I could see it being possible is if there's like, say, a bunch of VSTs out there that emulate the tweaking options of EWQLSO. Namely everything depicted here. So MAYBE squidfont can do it, but it'd take a ton of tweaking. I wish I knew for sure, actually. Has anyone here successfully performed such a task? You can do a lot of that kind of tweaking by automating MIDI CCs and effects in a sequencer or by loading the samples into something like Kontakt. Inferior samples can be made to sound really good with enough work, but it's a real pain. I expect the issue is that most of the people who are willing and knowledgeable enough to put that kind of effort into it are also willing to shell out the money for a pro library that will give better results with less effort. There are also certain things (sul ponticello, harmonics, mutes, round-robin samples, etc.) that you just cannot do unless you have the samples, and basic/free libraries don't have them. Just for kicks, here's a very incomplete rendering of a Beethoven symphony (just the high strings, the horns, and the timpani of the opening) that I did with the Reason Orkester soundbank before I got VSL. Never finished it because it was a pain to program, although it would probably have been easier if I'd thought my patch setup through a little better before I started. And it doesn't sound as good as VSL despite the time it took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeviathan Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 You can do far better than squidfont with the full version of EWQLSO.Silly soundfonts just aren't gonna give you the options you need to make your orchestral instruments sound realistic. That is, unless you REALLY know what you're doing. I applaud the man than can create a realistic sounding orchestra with squidfont, but I don't think it's possible, at least, not with an INSANE amount of tweaking. I'm pretty sure Unknown uses all free samples (not sure which ones) for his orchestral pieces, and he's gotten those to sound pretty good. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ella guro Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I'm not really into sample libraries, especially orchestral ones, but for the price it's definitely a fun little collection to play with. So thanks for the heads up.cheers. Same here. I'm almost opposed on principle to expensive sample libraries, partially due to being a curmudgeon (because I feel like it encourages people to put less effort into the sound design of their mixes), partially because I'm poor, and partially just lack of RAM . But yeah, downloading! I could always use some nicer free sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big giant circles Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Same here. I'm almost opposed on principle to expensive sample libraries, partially due to being a curmudgeon (because I feel like it encourages people to put less effort into the sound design of their mixes), partially because I'm poor, and partially just lack of RAM .But yeah, downloading! I could always use some nicer free sounds. I definitely see what you're saying there, and I suppose I agree with the principle, but it's been my experience that high quality sound libraries require just as much effort to get to sound good as free stuff. It's generally a myth that high end orchestra stuff sounds "just like a real orchestra!" right out of the box without good writing and especially good tweaking/mixing/mastering/fx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 It's generally a myth that high end orchestra stuff sounds "just like a real orchestra!" right out of the box without good writing and especially good tweaking/mixing/mastering/fx. That's true, money can't buy skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analoq Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 it's been my experience that high quality sound libraries require just as much effort to get to sound good as free stuff Your experiences are your own, but objectively I would say you're wrong. My feelings are the same as Liz's though I would articulate them differently: You could buy an Access Virus but never touch the knobs and only use the factory sounds, you could buy a mastering suite with all the bells and whistles but only use the presets. Good artists will choose tools to execute their artistic vision, bad artists will choose an artistic vision executed by their tools. In other words: blame the artists, not the tools. Blame T-Pain, don't blame AutoTune. OCR is going to have about 600 new Chrono Trigger remix submissions featuring the exact same orchestral samples. That already happened. But in all seriousness, it would be a brilliant idea to organise an OCR album project which used nothing but company X's product and get company X to sponsor the effort. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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