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The problem right now with the new primary (and this is purely from observation and what others have said):

1. Limitless supply of ammo.

2. Has 5 shots before reloading, rather than 4.

3. Does the same (or more) damage as the normal Rocket Launcher.

4. Has an alt fire that shoots all 5 charges at once (after a short charge time). That shot not only does mini-crit damage, but disables nearby buildings and sets anyone in its splash radius on fire.

I agree with point 2 and part of 4 for problems with it. I'd be fine with it having 3-4 shots, and the fire addon needs to go. Mini-crits in a blast is enough, no need to burn too.

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Edit:

If the servers randomly crash, I'm sorry. There have been widespread reports of random server crashes on the hlds_linux mailing list. It's not related to any addons or mods, as it reportedly still occurs with replays and addons disabled.

blu did crash horribly well, minutes after you posted this. Fireslash got it restarted.

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Only the charged shot, and it does piddly damage to buildings. The charge also can't be stopped once you start, so if you hit Mouse 2... you're in for that charge for the three seconds, along with the slower movement rate while you charge. The charge attack does mini-crits to all player targets... and also sets them on fire for some reason.

Both laser effects are reflectable.

I saw a minisentry take 2 charged shots and several regular shots before blowing up. Quite amusing.

The problem right now with the new primary (and this is purely from observation and what others have said):

1. Limitless supply of ammo.

2. Has 5 shots before reloading, rather than 4.

3. Does the same (or more) damage as the normal Rocket Launcher.

4. Has an alt fire that shoots all 5 charges at once (after a short charge time). That shot not only does mini-crit damage, but disables nearby buildings and sets anyone in its splash radius on fire.

It's downsides are:

1. No random crits (and this is *after* Valve removed that attribute from a shitload of other weapons)

2. Does less damage to buildings.

In other words, this is almost a straight upgrade to the rocket launcher. I expect nerfing to occur quite quickly.

Ye gods.

Lose the extra shot and the afterburn on charged shots (seriously, why is that even there?) and come up with a more creative downside than nocrit. (Inability to rocket jump would be hilarious, dunno if it's going too far though.)

Also the projectiles for the damn thing have somewhere in the neighborhood of 4k polygons. (For reference, the Pyro has around 4.5 k when rendered at maximum detail.) That's on top of the giant particle effects flying everywhere. YAY OPTIMIZATION!

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I saw a minisentry take 2 charged shots and several regular shots before blowing up. Quite amusing.

With these laser guns and all the Demoknights, only ubers (and then only ubers of people with proper weapons) are really going to be able to take down Sentries. It'll be interesting.

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NOTICE

TF2 NEW RED's address is changing tomorrow. It will now be at 173.212.246.228:27015

TF2 NEW BLU will be coming online as soon as I sort some things out (see next paragraph). It will be at 173.212.246.227:27015

I'm going to install a new startup/shutdown script for these servers that will apply updates, then restart the server once updates are applied. This won't fix the crash issue (all servers have crashed at least once in the last 24 hours), but it will help in cases where I'm not around to update the servers.

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TF2 NEW BLU is now operational. blu.ocrtf2.com is scheduled to be updated to point to 173.212.246.227 shortly. It is also running the new auto-update script that will restart the servers as soon as a server update completes installation.

TF2 NEW RED will be rebooted tomorrow morning and relocated to its new IP. I will be converting it to use the new auto-update script at that time, too. red.ocrtf2.com is scheduled to be updated to point to 173.212.246.228 shortly.

Now, since there are currently server crashing issues since yesterday's update, all 4 servers will remain operational. This way, if one server crashes, we have other servers available.

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Valve said the update won't be tonight... and that I should go get some sleep. ;)

Anyway, RED IP updates tomorrow morning as planned.

OLD RED and OLD BLU have had their identities reassigned to the new servers. Meaning that they're no longer listed in the QuickPlay system. RED emptied out completely just after I did this, so I assume it was getting quite a bit of traffic from QuickPlay tonight.

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RED has completed its move to its new IP: red.ocrtf2.com:27015 / 173.212.246.228:27015 (Note: Just fixed a minor SNAFU that had it reporting as BLU)

BLU is also listening on its new address: blu.ocrtf2.com:27015 / 173.212.246.227:27015

As previously mentioned, OLD RED and OLD BLU are still running due to crashing issues, which are supposed to be fixed later today.

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I like the way you two think :<

but I've always thought that there was something that went better with the pyromancer's mask, imho.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577803240003055587/7FBD393D24E885B04AB80F9DF0F61425B82A0291/

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i like the way you two think :<

but i've always thought that there was something that went better with the pyromancer's mask, imho.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577803240003055587/7fbd393d24e885b04ab80f9df0f61425b82a0291/

Oh god. Pyro is Yoshi. It all makes sense now.

... Also, I am ashamed I didn't think of Spaceballs: The Flame Thrower. I love that movie.

EDIT: Thirdly, an update just came out to optimize the polygons of the new weapons, it seems. So we'll see how this auto-updater program of PL's works in real-time! And it apparently added more cons to the cannon including a minor damage reduction and the inability to be crit boosted.

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Oh god. Pyro is Yoshi. It all makes sense now.

... Also, I am ashamed I didn't think of Spaceballs: The Flame Thrower. I love that movie.

EDIT: Thirdly, an update just came out to optimize the polygons of the new weapons, it seems. So we'll see how this auto-updater program of PL's works in real-time! And it apparently added more cons to the cannon including a minor damage reduction and the inability to be crit boosted.

The autoupdater bugged out. I went to check its progress earlier today, only to find out it was reinstalling TF2.

Turns out there's a bug in it that quotes an argument that, when quoted, makes it treat quotation marks as part of a directory.

It's fixed now, and correctly updated NEW BLU and NEW RED afterwards.

In the meantime, I manually updated OLD BLU and OLD RED (which don't have the autoupdater), so they were back up first. At the moment, all 4 servers are operational... and all 4 are being tracked on HLStatsX CE.

However, I made one more tweak that causes it to wait 10 seconds between server updates to fix issues with replays not starting correctly.

Oh right, here are the update notes:

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include:

Shared Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)

- Updated the localization files

Team Fortress 2

- Fixed a Linux dedicated server crash caused by the Replay director

---- Crash would happen whether the server was capturing Replays or not

- Fixed the Map Stamps Collection bundle missing in the store

- Fixed dedicated server ENTITY_CHANGE_NONE console spam

- Improved the impact sounds for the Cow Mangler 5000's projectiles

- Optimized many particle effects related to the Cow Mangler 5000 and the Righteous Bison

- Reduced the ConVar fov_desired to have a lower bound like the Replay editor

- Updated the Cow Mangler 5000 to display the drawbacks in its attribute list

- Updated the gamehaptics file:

---- Added recoil/draw/crit/reload forces for the Cow Mangler 5000 and the Righteous Bison

---- Added charge shot force for the Cow Mangler 5000

---- Refined the Demoman's Stickybomb Launcher/Pipe Bomb Launcher reload forces

- Updated the localization files

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Another TF2 update. As expected, the Cow Mangler got nerfed.

Options updates to Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch are now available. The specific changes include:

Shared Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)

- Fixed a bug in SourceTV that would sometimes corrupt demo data.

Team Fortress 2

- Cow Mangler changes:

- Fixed the charged shot sometimes doing more damage than intended.

- Fixed a bug that caused the projectiles to stay in the world after a team change.

- Slowed reload rate by 5%.

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EDIT: Thirdly, an update just came out to optimize the polygons of the new weapons, it seems. So we'll see how this auto-updater program of PL's works in real-time! And it apparently added more cons to the cannon including a minor damage reduction and the inability to be crit boosted.

Those cons were already present, just unlisted. (The slower reload is new though.)

Fun fact: The Mangler has lower base damage, but its damage rampup caps at 150% rather than whatever the norm for rocket launchers is. Unless they ninja-patched that while they were at it.

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